mredskins
04-19-2021, 02:37 PM
We're never going to commit to expanding mental health services either so crazy + guns = mass shootings = Merica!
It be easier then trying to collect every gun in Merica
Chico23231
04-19-2021, 02:39 PM
The problem at Sandy Hook was a mental health issue the symptom of that problem was the death of innocent children.
Albeit you could argue if he had no guns there be less deaths but he would have found a different tool to do his work.
Most police officers will tell the most dangerous thing the public posses is a automobile. You could knock out a large number of folks with one.
Sandy hook was just sickening. If you ever get a chance to read the backstory of the kid...his parents were terrible and they were like top 1% wealthy too. That’s a key thing behind so many problems, terrible fucking parents.
Chico23231
04-19-2021, 02:49 PM
We're never going to commit to expanding mental health services either so crazy + guns = mass shootings = Merica!
There are a lot of available services for mental health, especially if you live near a city or suburbs sprawl. Less rural mental health help because of funding.
Mental health still holds a strong stigma. Mental care should be part of school funding...it’s ridiculous how much the this country pisses away on education, they should divert money from their.
Giantone
04-19-2021, 02:53 PM
In before "my right to quickly buy a gun is more important than kids lives in schools, shoppers in stores, concert goers at festivals, people at nightclubs, etc."
I joke, but I think even Chico agrees that a little longer waiting period and closing buying loopholes is a fair trade for less mass shootings and better background checks.
There is so much that could be done and none of it would be confiscating any guns!
CRedskinsRule
04-19-2021, 03:14 PM
Are there people walking free that committed mass shootings? What are we not enforcing exactly?
https://www.chicagotribune.com/gun-offenders-more-likely-to-commit-crime-again-says-study-story.html
A study by the U.S. Sentencing Commission released in June 2019 reported more than two-thirds of federal gun offenders were re-arrested within eight years of being released from prison, compared to less than half of non-firearms offenders. (John Gibbins)
https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/L_7jSxHHtOmkpytCOJHZPgy2HCc=/800x516/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UNC3M2C5NDJJIGGO2AG7ELUKU.jpg
Chico23231
04-19-2021, 03:17 PM
^
Lock them up! Lock them up!
Chico23231
04-19-2021, 03:18 PM
https://www.chicagotribune.com/gun-offenders-more-likely-to-commit-crime-again-says-study-story.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/L_7jSxHHtOmkpytCOJHZPgy2HCc=/800x516/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UNC3M2C5NDJJIGGO2AG7ELUKU.jpg
Preach!
https://www.chicagotribune.com/gun-offenders-more-likely-to-commit-crime-again-says-study-story.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/L_7jSxHHtOmkpytCOJHZPgy2HCc=/800x516/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/5UNC3M2C5NDJJIGGO2AG7ELUKU.jpg
From the article:
Gun offenders should be more closely supervised after release from custody, Jenkins said, including more frequent contact and searches to detect and deter access to firearms.
"Also closely associated with recidivism reduction is requiring the released offenders to participate in and complete Cognitive Behavioral Programs that help high-risk offenders change criminal thinking patterns, make better decisions, and more successfully re-engage in society," said Jenkins.
He said services such as employment training and substance abuse treatment are also critical.
"But changing criminal thinking should be the priority," he said.
So I'm not sure that stricter sentencing is the answer like chico says, but instead expanding parole and re-training programs would probably be a good move.
^
Lock them up! Lock them up!
We should know from the war on drugs that locking people up doesn't work and isn't a deterrent.
Chico23231
04-19-2021, 03:35 PM
We should know from the war on drugs that locking people up doesn't work and isn't a deterrent.
It’s Apple to oranges policy wise. Not the same