With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

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NYCskinfan82
04-22-2021, 10:46 AM
Micah Parsons is not falling to us and 19, but if he did it you should hand that card in immediately.

Monkeydad
04-22-2021, 10:47 AM
This is a great article about Micah Parsons.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2021/04/moms-biggest-blessing.html

His mom thinking about murdering him as a baby has zero relevance to his draft status.

It's a local feel-good article about a Penn State player.


There are legitimate reasons so many teams do not want to draft him.

He may actually fall to 19 and if we're in a gambling mood on character issues, we might take him. It bit us hard with Guice last time we tried to overlook character issues.



Id rather take Zavan Collins or Owusu-Koramoah.

Chief X_Phackter
04-22-2021, 11:11 AM
Micah Parsons is not falling to us and 19, but if he did it you should hand that card in immediately.

Absolutely a no brainer. But like you said, there's zero chance he's there at 19.

Chief X_Phackter
04-22-2021, 11:13 AM
If there weren't this crazy infatuation with this year's "top 5" QBs, he'd be gone inside 5. He still might be.

SunnySide
04-22-2021, 11:19 AM
CB Asante Samuel ... thats my pick as who we take. A bit early but some reports have him being the best CB in the draft, bit undersized, CB is not a huge need now for us but I think they go BPA based on their board and they have Samuel high.

edit - I dont think I would take Samuel at 19 personally, trade back into late1st yes but not at 19. This is my guess on what the skins will do.

Schneed10
04-22-2021, 11:54 AM
WFT should stick at 19 and take whichever player is ranked highest on this list who remains available when they pick:

1) Trevor Lawrence
2) Zach Wilson
3) Penei Sewell
4) Kyle Pitts
5tie) Jaylen Waddle
5tie) Ja'Marr Chase
7) Justin Fields
8) Micah Parsons
9) Trey Lance
10) Caleb Farley
11) DeVonta Smith
12) Patrick Surtain
13tie) Rashawn Slater
13tie) Christian Darrisaw
15) Mac Jones
16) Teven Jenkins
17) Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
18) Zaven Collins
19) Alijah Vera-Tucker (G-T versatility)

There are some edge dudes that belong in this top 19 list, but like F we need an edge. Boy does it feel good to say that.

sdskinsfan2001
04-22-2021, 11:55 AM
WFT should stick at 19 and take whichever player is ranked highest on this list who remains available when they pick:

1) Trevor Lawrence
2) Zach Wilson
3) Penei Sewell
4) Kyle Pitts
5tie) Jaylen Waddle
5tie) Ja'Marr Chase
7) Justin Fields
8) Micah Parsons
9) Trey Lance
10) Caleb Farley
11) DeVonta Smith
12) Patrick Surtain
13tie) Rashawn Slater
13tie) Christian Darrisaw
15) Mac Jones
16) Teven Jenkins
17) Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
18) Zaven Collins
19) Alijah Vera-Tucker (G-T versatility)

There are some edge dudes that belong in this top 19 list, but like F we need an edge. Boy does it feel good to say that.

Good list. I want to make my own top 19 big board (specific to our team) prior to the draft.

Only 1 week away baby!!

artmonk81
04-22-2021, 04:24 PM
OT Christian Darrisaw

LB JEREMIAH OWUSU-KORAMOAH

Scalper
04-22-2021, 05:35 PM
History shows 2 or 3 out of the 5 that will go in the first round will bust. Jones to me isn't even a first rounder.

Physical talent, maybe not even a 2nd rounder.
But QB is 90% mental and mechanics. We see all sorts of athletic freaks, Jackson, Newton, etc., who never win big because they can't read Ds super fast mentally, aren't accurate, etc. Brees, Manning, Brady, Montana, guys in playoffs (or were) year in and out, are much more like Jones than any of QBs rated higher except of course Lawrence.
Not saying I know, but you see so many great athletes who can't ever elevate mentally, and never have to correct mechanics because they always take off running. Pocket passers win long term in NFL. So lots of teams may place a premium on a guy they KNOW has that 90% of game down and is elite mentally, even if some athletic limitations. Again not saying I know, but the interesting thing is that people who know QBs--professionals who feed their families scouting--disagree so strongly.
Lance and Fields may never be able to read a D and be pocket passers and could be total busts. Jones may never have the arm to punish you deep, but should be at least a serviceable starter. Which is a greater liability? I do not know, but opinions vary. I would say I would feel a hell of a lot better taking a guy like Jones near 20 rather than top 10.
Lance's arm strength is really intriguing, but he should be rated 2nd or 3rd round, but sheer demand of market drives that price much higher and always will for QBs. So what do you do?

SkinzWin
04-22-2021, 10:16 PM
But I thought he had all kind of character issues and red flags that would cause him to slide...

I heard the same thing. They talked about it at length the other day on SiriusXM NFL Radio, one incident was in high school. Another was alleged with a civil suit against his college by a former teammate (safety) but he was not named directly in the suit. The other issue was some comments made on social media while being recruited by Ohio State and they wound up ghosting him. A couple of people I have heard have couches for his character and said his issues were in high school when he was younger.

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