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skinsfan69 04-20-2021, 09:38 PM Someone predicting we take Travis Etienne:
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/peter-schrager-has-washington-going-unusual-direction-no-19-latest-mock?cid=Yahoo&partner=ya4nbcs
Flat out dumb. Ain't happening. We are more than fine at RB.
CRedskinsRule 04-20-2021, 10:20 PM Interesting piece on Riggo's Rag where WFT trades down once, and then again out of the 1st round. compiling picks in this AND next year's draft ... arming WFT to make a move up for the QB of the future next year, while filling holes all over in this year's draft.
I could go for that honestly. Lots of IF's in this .... but not bad either.
https://riggosrag.com/2021/04/20/pre-draft-reality-checks-for-the-washington-football-team/I would be ok with that.
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Pervis_Griffith 04-21-2021, 12:10 AM I would be ok with that.
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The more I think about it, I think what I like most is putting ourselves in position to make a huge move UP next year, to snag whichever QB we want.
Sure we stockpile a bunch of picks for this year.
But at the same time putting yourself in position next year, is also exciting.
Early look at best QB's in coming year:
Sam Howell, UNC
Kedon Slovis, USC
Bo Nix, Auburn (ahhh, maybe)
Spencer Rattler, Oklahoma
Layne Hatcher, Arkansas State (transferred from Bama)
Desmond Ritter, Cincinnati
Dustin Crum, Kent State
Jacob Zeno, Baylor
Spencer Sanders, Oklahoma State
JT Daniels, Georgia
Plus several others who could emerge -- Purdy, Iowa State; Tanner, Minnesota; my guy Malik Cunningham, Louisville ...
SkinzWin 04-21-2021, 12:21 AM I'd take Mills all day over Mond.
I’m not in favor of a project quarterback. I feel like it’s a waste of a pick.
Scalper 04-21-2021, 04:57 AM I'd put QB at 4th, I just don't see it being a huge need right now. If Lance were to fall past 10 then i could see why they'd move up but thats about it
QB is hands down our biggest need, but that doesn't mean you reach for one.
We have Fitz who has never led a team to playoffs in 18 years, Allen who blows, and Hein who has potential but is certainly not a proven franchise QB (and who won't get that chance while we waste reps on Fitz-never-won-squat). This is at the most important position in sports, where we have no long term answer. You can draft a LB, a FS, a TE, a LT, etc., we're still not sniffing a SB without a true franchise QB.
Scalper 04-21-2021, 05:02 AM It's really not just as simple as BPA. I do think teams go into the draft with the players ranked and the BPA strategy in mind, and they try to stick to that, but no team sticks to that exclusively when it’s time for them to execute in reality. Ultimately, if they decide another position is more valuable, or another player is more of a fit for the system and they believe he will turn into a productive player, they will stray from the BPA strategy.
For example, if the highest rated player on their board when they pick at #19 is a defensive end, I guarantee you they won't draft him. They'll take the next highest ranked player at a position of need, who fits their system (or they'll try to trade out).
Last year it was easy in the first round. Chase Young was the best player in the draft. For Jacksonville this year, it's easy. Trevor Lawrence has been the #1 pick in the 2021 draft for about four years now.
It's not always that cut and dry though. That's why they get 10 minutes to make a selection, and most of them take it all.
If highest rated DE, you trade down, as you noted. But the truth is taking a player at any position except DL would be okay with 1st round pick this year, so odds are a player you can use is there.
If player ranked #10 or #12 on board sitting there at 19, you take them. If players ranked 18,19,20 are, and minor difference in talent grade, need factors in. Good teams don't pigeonhole need with high picks, long term you end up MUCH more talented by going BPA early rounds. If you go BPA for a decade with 10 1st round picks, versus drafting guys slotted much lower for need, your roster is MUCH, MUCH more talented.
Later in draft there will generally be more players with similar grades, easier to target need, though some players will always drop. You go BPA consistently, round out with FA. That is how dynasties are built.
Scalper 04-21-2021, 05:04 AM I am hoping 5 qbs go in the first 10. The talent that falls down to around 11-15 would be worth jumping up for, especially if a few WRs get taken off also.
Nope. You stand pat or trade back unless trading up for QB. We have too many holes to be trading up for non-QBs, and perhaps even for QB. If top-5 QBs fall to 14 or so, trading up becomes interesting.
Scalper 04-21-2021, 05:26 AM Scalper, cred, gridiron...answer the damn question.
Tell me who they take at 19
There is not enough reliable information to make anything except a blind guess, which is all most mock drafts are. I also think some of the names draftniks love are not those FOs love.
I think top-3 QBs and Sewell, Pitts, Chase go top-10 or before we pick. Beyond that, who knows?
You'd love to see teams draft 5 QBs and 3-4 WRs before we pick so we get a guy rated much higher than 19, but. . .
If we have no T with high grade left on board and all 5 QBs gone, I hope we trade back, barring something absurd like Parsons falling. I prefer proven PASS blocking LTs, I don't care about run blocking, which means some Ts draftniks rate high I would have no interest in.
If we exit round 1 with one of franchise LTs, that would be best outcome in my opinion. As to who we'll pick, I don't know nor does anyone, so seems pointless to just throw darts at a board. Most years don't find franchise LT sitting there at 20 or so where we hopefully pick long term, so get one now. You can always find LBs or WRs. Stud pass blocking LTs much rarer, and again, one of 5 high-leverage positions. Outside of top-tier Ts, lot of guys in second tier very similar, trading down thus may be smart. My ideal draft would be multiple trade downs and we walk away with LT,RT,OLB,ILB,OLB,FS,FS,QB,QB,RB,WR,CB,TE,TE. That's 14 picks we could easily make, even if you knock one or two off, 12 picks. I would much rather have 2 #2s and 3 #3s and 2 #4s (or whatever) and no #1 and maybe get 5-6 starters--unless franchise LT sitting there at 19. We still have severe talent deficit from previous mismanagement and need 10-15 quality players. Thus I would trade down every chance I could so next year we don't have to sign 8 FAs and still don't have holes all over roster. This is MUCH more important than any single player at any pick, except a franchise QB or franchise LT. If I were GM, my focus would be drafting 2 QBs (never would have signed Fitz) and drafting 2 Ts so can let Moses and Lucas walk next year, without reaching for need. If LB waits a year, not optimal, but oh well. You win in trenches and never win multiple SBs without franchise QB, so I'd be using lottery picks on QB without trading up and focus on making OL as dominant as DL.
Will be interesting if Lance or Jones falls to 13 or so, and if we trade up, but who knows if that will happen.
skinsfaninok 04-21-2021, 09:41 AM https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzX3itlVkAExbdm?format=jpg&name=large
Chico23231 04-21-2021, 10:08 AM Probably 3 terrible busts from the top 5 QB this year.
Jones, Lance stand out immediately. Fields in that group too.
Never before have I heard so much certainty from so called experts on these guys when it comes to potential. These fuckin clowns.
I would avoid first round QB this year, it’s a wildly overrated class. Skins should also not draft one in the second round, third rounds. We have 3 QB on the roster, take this year to continue to add talent to the areas we need it most, it would be much more impactful
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