Fresh Start Political Thread


sdskinsfan2001
09-08-2021, 12:00 PM
I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

SunnySide
09-08-2021, 12:10 PM
I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

punch it in
09-08-2021, 12:10 PM
I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.


I dont get it either, but than again we aren’t women so……..

punch it in
09-08-2021, 12:12 PM
We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.


Republicans should just be called redcoats. Which is ironic because their most hardcore members pose as a militia. It’s like they are trying to overthrow themselves…..

sdskinsfan2001
09-08-2021, 12:40 PM
We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

We all get our values from somewhere and are guided by those values. You are basically saying that anyone that gets their values from something you don't approve of, shouldn't have a say in decisions. You can't be a Christian and make decisions that aren't in line with your values (unless you're a phony Iike Pelosi, Biden, etc.). You are stating that they have to, so basically they shouldn't be in politics.

In addition, I'm not against abortion solely because I'm a Christian, which certainly plays a part in it. I'm against it because I believe life begins at inception, and I'm against murder.

Why you think being an atheist gives your values a higher meaning than anyone elses is beyond me.

Your atheism is no less of a religion than my Christianity. Hopefully you find Jesus one day. I'll say a prayer for you today.

Chico23231
09-08-2021, 01:13 PM
What a hypocrite…silence when New York and others attempt and succeed expand to late term abortion which is murder…big mad when Texas restricts

No surprise

mooby
09-08-2021, 01:16 PM
Question, is court packing honestly the right thing to do?

It's not, but historically even presidents like GWB knew the importance of maintaining a fair balance on the court so that everyone knew the integrity of the court was above partisan politics.

Trump came along and convinced McConnell/etc. that winning at any cost is more important than maintaining the integrity of the court and now here we are. McConnell shits all over precedent when it comes to SCOTUS - won't even entertain a confirmation hearing for Garland with 8 months to go and then speeds through ACB when RBG dies within a month of the election. Now his super-majority has just shitted all over established precedent in saying the Texas abortion law that encourages private citizens to go prying into other people's lives doesn't damage Roe v Wade.

In our minds - your side is not playing fair. What do you when the other side is not playing fair? You escalate.

The integrity of SCOTUS is already lost imo. Used to be a time when they were above partisan politics - that time is gone.

mooby
09-08-2021, 01:18 PM
Saying pack the court is the same as saying destroy the court - because packing the court would destroy it. It is so clear to see what would happen if that occurred. Dems add 4 justices - then reverse what was done in previous court session, Republicans then add 4 more to reverse what the previous court did and so on and so on. I mean how can't people who propose packing the court see that? The Government then becomes 2 branches with the President clearly stronger than the legislative - ie eventual end to our democracy.

Packing the court is the worst idea for government reform I've ever seen proposed.

The court is already destroyed in our minds. Even if Roberts swings liberal on occasion conservatives have enough votes to enact any policy they desire. Is that a fair representation to the people of America?

We're already looking at a kangaroo court whether you agree or disagree - packing it would only make it official.

Chico23231
09-08-2021, 01:24 PM
The court is already destroyed in our minds. Even if Roberts swings liberal on occasion conservatives have enough votes to enact any policy they desire. Is that a fair representation to the people of America?

We're already looking at a kangaroo court whether you agree or disagree - packing it would only make it official.

“When we had the majority on the court it was fair, now it’s not fair because we don’t”

Let’s change laws because we are authoritarian fascists

Chico23231
09-08-2021, 01:25 PM
It's not, but historically even presidents like GWB knew the importance of maintaining a fair balance on the court so that everyone knew the integrity of the court was above partisan politics.

Trump came along and convinced McConnell/etc. that winning at any cost is more important than maintaining the integrity of the court and now here we are. McConnell shits all over precedent when it comes to SCOTUS - won't even entertain a confirmation hearing for Garland with 8 months to go and then speeds through ACB when RBG dies within a month of the election. Now his super-majority has just shitted all over established precedent in saying the Texas abortion law that encourages private citizens to go prying into other people's lives doesn't damage Roe v Wade.

In our minds - your side is not playing fair. What do you when the other side is not playing fair? You escalate.

The integrity of SCOTUS is already lost imo. Used to be a time when they were above partisan politics - that time is gone.

Glad we agree it’s not.

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