Fresh Start Political Thread

Biden won't expand the court because he doesn't play hardball - he's a middle of the pack Dem and as he has shown he would rather try to work with conservatives to get shit down than force it down their throats like Pelosi and the infrastructure bill.

That's the difference - conservatives like McConnell and Trump will go to any length to win - including shitting all over precedent - whereas we are still playing nice with the exception of AOC/etc. Trump and McConnell would expand the SCOTUS bench in a new york minute if that was the difference between holding the court for the next 40 years. Biden won't even entertain the idea.

Question, is court packing honestly the right thing to do?

Question, is court packing honestly the right thing to do?

Republicans made the Court a political football when turtle man wouldn't confirm/hearing Obamas nominee and with their recent refusal to kill the Texas abortion BS it might be the only way.

Since when does either side care about the "right thing" to do lol. It's all about grabbing power when the opportunity presents itself. Pack the fucking court.

Since when does either side care about the "right thing" to do lol. It's all about grabbing power when the opportunity presents itself. Pack the fucking court.


I actually think a lot of people do…and polling suggests with not packing courts, I’m in the majority

Since when does either side care about the "right thing" to do lol. It's all about grabbing power when the opportunity presents itself. Pack the fucking court.

Saying pack the court is the same as saying destroy the court - because packing the court would destroy it. It is so clear to see what would happen if that occurred. Dems add 4 justices - then reverse what was done in previous court session, Republicans then add 4 more to reverse what the previous court did and so on and so on. I mean how can't people who propose packing the court see that? The Government then becomes 2 branches with the President clearly stronger than the legislative - ie eventual end to our democracy.

Packing the court is the worst idea for government reform I've ever seen proposed.

Saying pack the court is the same as saying destroy the court - because packing the court would destroy it. It is so clear to see what would happen if that occurred. Dems add 4 justices - then reverse what was done in previous court session, Republicans then add 4 more to reverse what the previous court did and so on and so on. I mean how can't people who propose packing the court see that? The Government then becomes 2 branches with the President clearly stronger than the legislative - ie eventual end to our democracy.

Packing the court is the worst idea for government reform I've ever seen proposed.

The number of justices has changed several times throughout history but we've somehow survived.

The number of justices has changed several times throughout history but we've somehow survived.

Further politicizing the SP is the wrong move. Court packing in the past has been a failure

We've had 9 justices since 1869. Let's not act like it's always been in fluctuation.

If you're just going to pack the court then just get rid of it. Get rid of congress too.

Then just keep importing voters and democrats can have their king forever.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has made confirming conservative judges his singular focus. In 2018 he described his goal at a gala of the Federalist Society, the four-decades-old legal network that’s become the pipeline for Republican judicial appointees: It’s “to do everything we can, for as long as we can, to transform the federal judiciary, because everything else we do is transitory.”

The previous two Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, each left their Republican successors more than 100 openings among the roughly 850 seats on district and appeals courts, because Senate Republicans blocked many of their nominees. The other vacancy Obama famously left was the one that should have gone to his third Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, but for McConnell’s brazen blockade in 2016 on grounds that the president elected in November should fill the seat.

McConnell had the Senate continue to confirm judges even after Trump’s defeat in 2020, vowing he’d “leave no vacancy behind.” Not since 1897 had the Senate confirmed a judicial nominee of a defeated president. It confirmed 14 of Trump’s.
The Trump years

Trump’s 226 successful appointments to the trial, appellate, and Supreme courts in a single term will stand as one of his foremost legacies, and all but certainly his most enduring.

When Trump left office, his picks comprised one-third of the Supreme Court, 30% of the 13 circuit courts, and more than one-quarter of the judges presiding over the nation’s 94 district courts. He appointed 54 judges to the circuit courts that are the final word on most appeals—just one less than Obama selected over eight years.

https://time.com/6074707/republicans-courts-congress-mcconnell/

SCOTUS is pretty much a political branch at this point imo.

You can thank Mitch McConnell.

A few more political stunts like they did with the Texas abortion law and Id say pack it with an absurd 50 justices. Make it the complete farce it is becoming.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has made confirming conservative judges his singular focus. In 2018 he described his goal at a gala of the Federalist Society, the four-decades-old legal network that’s become the pipeline for Republican judicial appointees: It’s “to do everything we can, for as long as we can, to transform the federal judiciary, because everything else we do is transitory.”

The previous two Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, each left their Republican successors more than 100 openings among the roughly 850 seats on district and appeals courts, because Senate Republicans blocked many of their nominees. The other vacancy Obama famously left was the one that should have gone to his third Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, but for McConnell’s brazen blockade in 2016 on grounds that the president elected in November should fill the seat.

McConnell had the Senate continue to confirm judges even after Trump’s defeat in 2020, vowing he’d “leave no vacancy behind.” Not since 1897 had the Senate confirmed a judicial nominee of a defeated president. It confirmed 14 of Trump’s.
The Trump years

Trump’s 226 successful appointments to the trial, appellate, and Supreme courts in a single term will stand as one of his foremost legacies, and all but certainly his most enduring.

When Trump left office, his picks comprised one-third of the Supreme Court, 30% of the 13 circuit courts, and more than one-quarter of the judges presiding over the nation’s 94 district courts. He appointed 54 judges to the circuit courts that are the final word on most appeals—just one less than Obama selected over eight years.

https://time.com/6074707/republicans-courts-congress-mcconnell/

SCOTUS is pretty much a political branch at this point imo.

You can thank Mitch McConnell.

A few more political stunts like they did with the Texas abortion law and Id say pack it with an absurd 50 justices. Make it the complete farce it is becoming.

I do not agree with McConnell on this or 99% of other issues. The President is the President for 4 years. Not 3 or 3.5 or 3.9. It's a 4 year fucking term.