Fresh Start Political Thread

The issue is I'm a conservative Republican - which puts me on an opposing side of Trumper's and you woke crowd. I've been consistent in my postings. Can't help it if my arrows are too damn accurate for your comfort levels.


Lol. Ok buddy. At least now I understand why u think u know everything. You have put yourself in a neat little box in the middle and generalized everyone else. Woke = mask wearers. Must be a nice place to live. Please let me know if there are any openings in “del boca know it all”

Lol. Ok buddy. At least now I understand why u think u know everything. You have put yourself in a neat little box in the middle and generalized everyone else. Woke = mask wearers. Must be a nice place to live. Please let me know if there are any openings in “del boca know it all”

BTW - a follow up that supports my point about politicians ignoring what they were told (not unique to Biden by any means).

"....But over the objections of military leaders who warned that the Afghan government would collapse without U.S. security assistance, Biden decided in April to end military involvement by September...."

Oh and stop with the anti masker crap I've already pointed out I'm not an anti-masker - just realistic on what they can do (Although I guess in your mind that would make me an anti-masker). Oh damn this was a way of changing the subject because it wasn't going to well for you re intelligence and I fell for it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2021/08/15/bidens-departure-afghanistan-predictable-and-disastrous/8142482002/

BTW - a follow up that supports my point about politicians ignoring what they were told (not unique to Biden by any means).

"....But over the objections of military leaders who warned that the Afghan government would collapse without U.S. security assistance, Biden decided in April to end military involvement by September...."

Oh and stop with the anti masker crap I've already pointed out I'm not an anti-masker - just realistic on what they can do (Although I guess in your mind that would make me an anti-masker).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2021/08/15/bidens-departure-afghanistan-predictable-and-disastrous/8142482002/


Just open your own thread called “ im
Right and your wrong even when we agree” and keep arguing with yourself. I’ve had enough.

Trump wanted a withdrawl.

Biden wanted a withdrawl.

Americans overwhelmingly wanted a withdrawl.

We withdrew.

People trying to criticize Biden seem to have an agenda. Whats new.

Just open your own thread called “ im
Right and your wrong even when we agree” and keep arguing with yourself. I’ve had enough.

Oh you mean this. I see what the problem is now - you have a reading comprehension problem. You really should have gone back and reviewed what I posted before throwing me this softball.

"So here are the facts
- The vaccines are effective - most of those -Check that - almost all of those dying are unvaccinated.
- Some will die from the vaccine itself as happens with every vaccine ever developed -
- Legal protections for the developers was absolutely necessary.
- The virus in not a serious threat to most - check that - almost all kids (When it comes to those under 20, the flu really is far more dangerous).
- Only a small minority of kids catch the virus (almost all asymptomatic).
- Schools should never have been closed as the virus effect on kids was known before they shut down.
- Florida got their response right.
- New York got their response wrong.
- Masks work to limit the spread by limiting the spread of the virus from those that are infected.
- Masks generally won't protect you from catching the virus.
- Stores have property rights if they won't serve/bar someone who won't wear a mask that is legal and perfectly reasonable.

Trump wanted a withdrawl.

Biden wanted a withdrawl.

Americans overwhelmingly wanted a withdrawl.

We withdrew.

People trying to criticize Biden seem to have an agenda. Whats new.

I agree.........


https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-war-afghanistan

The U.S. War in Afghanistan
1999 – 2021
The Taliban insurgency remains resilient nearly two decades after U.S.-led forces toppled its regime in what led to the United States’ longest war.

In hindsight, we probably should have withdrawn after 9/11/2021, especially how it's going right now. This is shared blame between Trump and Biden. Never understood setting dates or redlines when dealing with terrorists.

The execution of this has been poor. The people in charge of the military and/or of our government were clearly wrong about the capabilities and probably more importantly, the willingness, of the Afghan army to fight. The Afghani people should be absolutely embarrassed of their army.

We should have removed every one from the embassy and wherever else we had people, prior to withdrawing the troops. Same with destroying all paperwork and whatever else couldn't be left behind. And we also should have transported some of the most dangerous prisoners to other prisons.

All this being said, I still approve of the withdrawal. Mistakes were made. But this was never going to be a smooth process.

It really is shocking how fast the country folded to the taliban. That country is just a broken mess. Always has been and probably always will be. If they don't want the taliban they will have to fight them. They will never be eliminated until their people kill them all and throw them out.

There was no failure of intelligence, he was told that the Afghan Army wouldn't hold up, he just chose to ignore that and drive on (Trump was told this too and he didn't care either). Bottom-line Biden is just as bad as Trump on some policies, including this one.


Wrong as hell. Again. Nobody including the Intelligence community knew or thought that the Taliban would move so fast. Intelligence was thinking it would be months until the Taliban took over all the territory they have taken over.

Wrong as hell. Again. Nobody including the Intelligence community knew or thought that the Taliban would move so fast. Intelligence was thinking it would be months until the Taliban took over all the territory they have taken over.

I already posted what the military told him. BTW after that anti-mask issue you raised don't you think you have enough egg on your face for one day?

Oh you mean this. I see what the problem is now - you have a reading comprehension problem. You really should have gone back and reviewed what I posted before throwing me this softball.


- Florida got their response right.
- New York got their response wrong.
- Masks work to limit the spread by limiting the spread of the virus from those that are infected.
- Masks generally won't protect you from catching the virus.
.

Most of what you originally wrote is absolute conjecture. But this part is pure anti genius. How in the hell do u catch the virus if not from someone who has the virus??? Your own “facts” literally contradict themselves. But like myself and others have said, you play both sides of the fence so that you can tell all others they are wrong. Than you actually double down and quote yourself so we can all see it. “Masks limit the spread from those infected, but will not protect you from getting it from those infected. “Holy fuckin facepalm. Just stop. The only one with egg on their face is you. The only one with a comprehension problem is you. Im telling you man open your own thread and argue with yourself.