Fresh Start Political Thread

It's called Politics, are you new here?

Are you new to me thinking politicians work for us? Not the other way around?

Are you new to me thinking politicians work for us? Not the other way around?

LOL, again, the same question ?Are you new here? Look I get it piss's you off but this is why it matters who you vote for and if they suck, .....you vote them out.

The democrat/RINO platform is based on spending money that isn't their's. That's it. How can we spend money we didn't make the way we want it to be spent?

They both waste our money, and get reelected in perpetuity by blaming the other side.

Example) Local democrats from Texas got taxpayer funded flights to D.C. to not do their jobs. Then I listened to an interview from Lindsey Graham, who I already don't like, make a joke about about he would leave D.C. to skip a vote. But he wasn't really joking. He would literally do the exact same thing if it benefited him. And on a national level.


Gotta disagree about the RINO comment. They spend but not nearly as much as the Trump wing of the Republican party. The "RINOs" (ie conservatives) are the only ones that even raise fiscal restraint at this point. The Trumpsters act like Dems and just don't care. I always like to point out Paul Ryan the "RINO" as he was the only major politician in the last 35 years that actually proposed an effective plan to keep Social Security solvent - both the Dems and the Trumpsters shot this down (Trump outright took the Dem position of don't touch Social Security benefits at all - heck he even made the same baseless attack the Dems used that Ryan's plan would hurt those already on Social Security).

(The idiots in charge of our network at work have blocked this site saying it is a games site. There actually is a game called warpath and some knucklehead security Nazi conflated the two. So my responses in discussions will be delayed).

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/20/us-ukraine-russia-pipeline-500334

Good article about the pipeline gift to Russia. So much for libs ever crying about Russia ever again, no more…if the previous administration had even thought about this the meltdown would have been amazing. The previous administration was head and tales tougher on Russia than Biden’s been.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/20/us-ukraine-russia-pipeline-500334

Good article about the pipeline gift to Russia. So much for libs ever crying about Russia ever again, no more…if the previous administration had even thought about this the meltdown would have been amazing. The previous administration was head and tales tougher on Russia than Biden’s been.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/20/us-ukraine-russia-pipeline-500334

Good article about the pipeline gift to Russia. So much for libs ever crying about Russia ever again, no more…if the previous administration had even thought about this the meltdown would have been amazing. The previous administration was head and tales tougher on Russia than Biden’s been.

Good informative article, thank you Chico.

Lots of moving parts and competing interests.

1. Sanctions werent stopping the pipeline which is almost done completion anyway

2. Germany really wanted it and I do think we had to make ally amends

3. Sucks for Ukraine as apparently they will be circumvented and wont get a transit fee

4. Makes Germany and western Europe even more energy dependent on Russia

5. Cheap natural gas from Russia means no incentives to develop green energy and energy alternatives

My take away, it seemed it was going to happen no matter what so we chose to work with an ally in Germany.

This seems to be a though out diplomatic foreign relation decision.

Adults in charge.

Lol…as bad faith as they come which typing it I guess this hides the embarrassment of “Biden would be tougher on Russia” campaign lie. No SS the pipeline wouldn’t get done without lifting sanctions, Biden lifted those. Like I said, don’t ever cry about Russia again. Trump was tougher.

Russian owning Biden administration ala Obama part 2. Continuing Russian hacks with on infrastructure (I’m sure you stand with Biden not to do anything about the China hacks as well) and giving them a crowing energy win while weakening Ukraine and advising them not to speak out about it. That’s pretty terrible

Also, don’t whine about false climate narratives when you agree with a pipeline which goes against green energy strategies against non compliant governments.

If Trump would have allowed the pipeline completion we know what you would have said…more Russian collusion hoaxes…

Total project was 1,230 kilometers of underwater pipeline.

As of June 3, they had 100 kilometers left to build.

87.7% complete when Biden lifted sanctions.

Seems like the pipeline was going to be a reality whether we kept sanctions or not.

Anyways ... (by the way .. the russia hacking group wiped itself after Bidens phone call to Putin ...plus I think we hacked their power grid as a tit for tat)

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-says-nord-stream-2-pipeline-almost-complete-100-km-left-tass-2021-06-03/

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/gas-pipeline-nord-stream-2-links-germany-russia-splits-europe

Lol…as bad faith as they come which typing it I guess this hides the embarrassment of “Biden would be tougher on Russia” campaign lie. No SS the pipeline wouldn’t get done without lifting sanctions, Biden lifted those. Like I said, don’t ever cry about Russia again. Trump was tougher.

Russian owning Biden administration ala Obama part 2. Continuing Russian hacks with on infrastructure (I’m sure you stand with Biden not to do anything about the China hacks as well) and giving them a crowing energy win while weakening Ukraine and advising them not to speak out about it. That’s pretty terrible

Also, don’t whine about false climate narratives when you agree with a pipeline which goes against green energy strategies against non compliant governments.

If Trump would have allowed the pipeline completion we know what you would have said…more Russian collusion hoaxes…


So fun watching you grasp for straws. And its only been 6 months. In 7 years what is it going to be? The color of his suit? Oh wait that was already a far right battle cry. Well im sure it will be something either petty or twisted like your pipeline dilemma.

How bout we talk more about the 179th person Trump surrounded himself with who is going to jail? I know. I know. Pure coincidence.