punch it in
06-25-2021, 07:35 PM
This isn't one party stopping the other party's partisan proposals, this is the President and Pelosi screwing up a compromise bill put together by both parties. I can't think of one instance on major legislation since 2008 where an agreement has been reached within Congress between the two parties. So you are comparing (pine?)apples to oranges on this.
Well isn’t stopping the same as “screwing” up? Stopping, blocking, ignoring, counter offering…..
Pelosi and Biden wanting more in the bill is not screwing up. When the hell was the last time Republicans compromised on anything? Again McConnell does not even entertain most of what Dems in congress propose.
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump
From that article…
“McConnell calls himself the “grim reaper” of Democratic legislation he derides as socialist, but many of the bills that never see the Senate floor are bipartisan issues, like a universal background check bill, net neutrality, and reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.”
Bipartisan issues there. Call it whatever fruit you would like, but at the end of the day it is halting progress. To me ignoring something is far worse than negotiations going nowhere. At least this was entertained.
The party of Mitch McConnell and Trump (whether he is in office or not he obviously has pull) has no business harping on Pelosi and Biden for halting progress in any way, shape, form, or fruit….none at all.
sdskinsfan2001
06-25-2021, 11:53 PM
And before SD accuses me of only saying bad things about republicans and not democrats - im not. I just find it hilarious how the right reacts when the left pulls a page from their playbook. Its awful isn’t it?
The GOP is the problem with our political system right now folks, but please don’t let me stand in the way of blaming Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden. Lol. Carry on…
Hey, I'm just over here minding my own business lol.
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sdskinsfan2001
06-26-2021, 12:15 AM
Politics are the devil's asshole.
I had a good Friday. Everyone have a good weekend!
nonniey
06-26-2021, 01:03 AM
Well isn’t stopping the same as “screwing” up? Stopping, blocking, ignoring, counter offering…..
Pelosi and Biden wanting more in the bill is not screwing up. When the hell was the last time Republicans compromised on anything? Again McConnell does not even entertain most of what Dems in congress propose.
https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977735/how-many-bills-passed-house-democrats-trump
From that article…
“McConnell calls himself the “grim reaper” of Democratic legislation he derides as socialist, but many of the bills that never see the Senate floor are bipartisan issues, like a universal background check bill, net neutrality, and reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.”
Bipartisan issues there. Call it whatever fruit you would like, but at the end of the day it is halting progress. To me ignoring something is far worse than negotiations going nowhere. At least this was entertained.
The party of Mitch McConnell and Trump (whether he is in office or not he obviously has pull) has no business harping on Pelosi and Biden for halting progress in any way, shape, form, or fruit….none at all.
Again the point is they killed (unintentionally on Biden's part I think) a bill that both parties agreed to pass which is in fact different than killing legislation that only the other party was proposing. We have been in a whole loaf or nothing pattern since the ACA was passed - with the parties 100% opposed to legislation proposed (or allowing amendments to) by their political opponents. This compromise broke (or would have) that pattern and finally brought back some level of cross party cooperation. The result is instead of getting $1.2 trillion for infrastructure we'll get a big fat goose egg for infrastructure and the destructive pattern of no compromise will continue.
sdskinsfan2001
06-26-2021, 02:36 AM
Was re-reading some of the posts. Clicked on the home link to notice this image at the top...
https://i.ibb.co/Y2FtKj3/Screenshot-20210625-233209-Samsung-Internet.jpg
Lol. Anti-turtle add on the top of the homepage. I love irony.
punch it in
06-26-2021, 07:47 AM
Was re-reading some of the posts. Clicked on the home link to notice this image at the top...
https://i.ibb.co/Y2FtKj3/Screenshot-20210625-233209-Samsung-Internet.jpg
Lol. Anti-turtle add on the top of the homepage. I love irony.
Hah! I win! Sorry Nonniey…..
Lol
mooby
06-26-2021, 09:25 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-reverses-himself-on-infrastructure-says-he-would-sign-bipartisan-deal/ar-AALu4KV?li=BBnb7Kz
Wow. If I didn't know any better I'd swear the POTUS caved after announcing an unpopular decision and he took the L. It's almost like he listens to people around him. Why does it feel like it's been so long since that happened?
nonniey
06-27-2021, 01:51 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-reverses-himself-on-infrastructure-says-he-would-sign-bipartisan-deal/ar-AALu4KV?li=BBnb7Kz
Wow. If I didn't know any better I'd swear the POTUS caved after announcing an unpopular decision and he took the L. It's almost like he listens to people around him. Why does it feel like it's been so long since that happened?
Because it has been. Lets hope the damage done can be overcome and the bill passed. Wonder if Pelosi is going to likewise backtrack?
punch it in
06-27-2021, 09:51 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-reverses-himself-on-infrastructure-says-he-would-sign-bipartisan-deal/ar-AALu4KV?li=BBnb7Kz
Wow. If I didn't know any better I'd swear the POTUS caved after announcing an unpopular decision and he took the L. It's almost like he listens to people around him. Why does it feel like it's been so long since that happened?
Well in all fairness to the ones who didn’t listen to those around him, those around him championed everything he did good or bad because they would have been fired and accused of treason so…..
Ahhh the fresh air of a non autocracy……
Chico23231
06-27-2021, 10:09 AM
Literally nothing has changed between Trump and the Biden administration when it comes to communication and messaging…it’s been 1000% true with covid and now the infrastructure bill. The hope of clarity, transparency and honesty…that’s been a bullshit dream. Biden lies as much as Trump period.
Biden seems like he is suffering from dementia or something else, his presser where he was whispering the other day after just last week becoming unhinged on the world stage with the press…you gotta be a brainwormed clown not to see it.
I think everyone agrees we need funding for infrastructure and especially security of our infrastructure. Anything that is not actual infrastructure like “human infrastructure” should be negotiated outside of the bill as a separate issue.