Fresh Start Political Thread


Chico23231
06-04-2021, 08:39 PM
Pretty hilarious when all of the NY mayor candidates have personally refused De Blasio endorsement. The worst mayor NYC ever had and the damage done may take years to undo.

Welp that’s what you get from a documented anti Semitic communist loser

Giantone
06-05-2021, 08:35 AM
....... that’s what you get from a documented anti Semitic communist loser

You seem to be an expert in that field.

Giantone
06-05-2021, 08:37 AM
Kinda strange hearing the silence as so many hate crimes and displays of antiSemitism go on around the country. So folks incorrectly blame the previous administration with the rise in Asian hate crimes, yet silent and refuse to point the finger in this case. Interesting

No people and rightly so , blame the previous administration for an up tick in hate,.....period!

nonniey
06-07-2021, 01:44 AM
No people and rightly so , blame the previous administration for an up tick in hate,.....period!

One of the biggest issues with Trump is he really did/does bring out the worst in people and definitely not only the people who worship him. Seems for the majority of people one must hate those who don't 100% agree with you nowadays (Even within ones own party - See Manchin, Sinema, Romney Cheny etc.).

punch it in
06-07-2021, 07:11 PM
Kinda strange hearing the silence as so many hate crimes and displays of antiSemitism go on around the country. So folks incorrectly blame the previous administration with the rise in Asian hate crimes, yet silent and refuse to point the finger in this case. Interesting



Are you fucking serious? Trump made every racist in this country feel empowered. When you keep calling something the China Virus or the Kung flu to get a rise out of your racist base and are either completely oblivious, or just dont give a fuck that every asian American will be in danger because of it than yes you are to blame. I mean come the fuck on Chico. One time just admit that he fucked up. The uptick in hate crimes and his fat foul mouth were in complete unison for years and you were the silent one. Now you are going to act like because he lost the election they are all following someone else’s leas? Ok. Lol. Dude is still the mouth of the white nationalist party. Who are you even trying to kid?

punch it in
06-07-2021, 07:13 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Let me guess. If the media would have just left it alone than all would be kosher?

sdskinsfan2001
06-08-2021, 02:50 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/hate-crimes-under-trump-surged-nearly-20-percent-says-fbi-report-1547870

Let me guess. If the media would have just left it alone than all would be kosher?

Is murdering someone better, worse, or the same, if it's a "hate" crime?

It's always confused me why we try to classify homicides. Everything is all about race, sex, etc.. We will never change. It's 2021, and we all still justify, classify, etc. If you kill someone, outside of self defense, it's always fucking wrong. I think without politics, this would be 99% agreed upon.

Like if someone shoots my family member for no reason, I don't give 2 shits about the classification. I will hate that person, until hopefully I can forgive them.

That's why politics suck. We lose things that unite us, such as killing each other is terrible, so we can fight about why we kill each other.

punch it in
06-08-2021, 08:37 AM
Is murdering someone better, worse, or the same, if it's a "hate" crime?



It's always confused me why we try to classify homicides. Everything is all about race, sex, etc.. We will never change. It's 2021, and we all still justify, classify, etc. If you kill someone, outside of self defense, it's always fucking wrong. I think without politics, this would be 99% agreed upon.



Like if someone shoots my family member for no reason, I don't give 2 shits about the classification. I will hate that person, until hopefully I can forgive them.



That's why politics suck. We lose things that unite us, such as killing each other is terrible, so we can fight about why we kill each other.



Of course murder is murder. But murdering someone because they are jewish imo is worse than a scorned lover or a break in gone bad because it is even more senseless. Doesn’t make any murder ok. Lol. The conversation is about hate crime though.
If someone shoots your family member for no reason that is obviously awful but that person is going to kill someone regardless. Someone shoots your family member because of their race or religion than that would fall into the pre meditated murder category. They were targeted. It is by definition worse. Certainly doesn’t make the random murder good though. At all. But again we are discussing hate crimes.

SunnySide
06-08-2021, 09:38 AM
Random targeted violence on innocent people should always get extra protection and attention as a society.

If 2 strangers get drunk at a bar and shoot each other or gang members kill each other ... some personal decisions were made leading to the end result. Thats why the innocent baby killed by stray gun fire is so much more heartbreaking then some 16 year old with a long rap sheet.

A jewish or asian or black or white mom killed at the shopping mall for no reason other than they are jewish or white or black or asian .... it shocks the collective conscious of a community bc wed like to think if we avoid trouble, dont run our mouth, dont go out after midnight flexing our beer muscles, we should be free from consequences we didnt put ourselves into.

If a family cant walk down the street mid afternoon without getting targeted ... we need to pay special attention to that situation.

When we say "save the whales" we arent saying "dophins lives dont matter". We are saying we need to pay special attention to this problem bc this problem needs special attention.

Giantone
06-08-2021, 09:59 AM
Random targeted violence on innocent people should always get extra protection and attention as a society.

If 2 strangers get drunk at a bar and shoot each other or gang members kill each other ... some personal decisions were made leading to the end result. Thats why the innocent baby killed by stray gun fire is so much more heartbreaking then some 16 year old with a long rap sheet.

A jewish or asian or black or white mom killed at the shopping mall for no reason other than they are jewish or white or black or asian .... it shocks the collective conscious of a community bc wed like to think if we avoid trouble, dont run our mouth, dont go out after midnight flexing our beer muscles, we should be free from consequences we didnt put ourselves into.

If a family cant walk down the street mid afternoon without getting targeted ... we need to pay special attention to that situation.

When we say "save the whales" we arent saying "dophins lives dont matter". We are saying we need to pay special attention to this problem bc this problem needs special attention.


It's sad that this actually has to be explained to anyone.

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