Fresh Start Political Thread

States that voted for Democrat Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election have, on average, better high school and college graduation rates than states that supported Republican Mitt Romney, according to U.S. Census data.

Red states fall 1.5 percentage points below the national average for high school completion rate (84.2% vs. 85.7%), and 3.3 percentage points below the national average for college degree attainment (25.1% vs. 28.4%).

Blue states, in comparison, perform slightly above the national averages—by 0.8 and 2 percentage points, respectively.

https://time.com/101697/blue-states-barack-obama-won-in-2012-are-more-educated-than-red-states/

Few factors bear as heavily on the well-being of any state’s citizens as their overall quality of health. In evaluating the Best States for health care, access to preventive medical and dental treatment for children and adults alike is a key consideration.

Hawaii is the top state for health care. It’s followed by Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey and California to round out the top five.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/health-care

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if Maryland had the school system and health care of Alabama or Mississippi .. I wouldnt live in Maryland.

Maryland is ranked as the 4th best public school state in the Country and Howard County is ranked the 1st county in Maryland.

I have a major hospital 5 miles from my house. I have John Hopkins 20 miles from my house.

I have a 6 figure job and am surrounded by job opportunities in the 6 figure range. My house increased over 100k in value over the past few years.

We pay more in State and local taxes but live in a better state of health wealth and social services.

Exactly, choice is what this country is all about. Kinda like laws in some states seem to offend someone 800 miles away. Like why would they care and get emotionally involved?

But this post doesn’t address why support a federal package would give massive tax break to most affluent and then construct a false narrative stating we are taxing the rich?

Well I support high taxes because I can afford it, isn’t really a defense. I imagine in can find folks who can’t. Representative government also doesn’t matter if you think you or Maryland is better than someone in Alabama or Alabama itself. Folks love both states and chose to live there for different reasons. Shit, Alabama has a song about calling it home. Never heard the Maryland one.

You are circumventing the big picture. Of course he voted for it. With the caveat that nothing else would be considered- whst the progressives wanted - because he is suddenly and conveniently fiscally responsible. Now pick up with my last post.

You also know they could raise the debt ceiling too without a GOP vote, right?

edit - bad energy reply

apologies

Damnit, I didn't wake up early enough.

This hold up on the infrastructure deal is a perfect example of the bullshit in D.C. Always trying to sneak in other stuff into a bill that has nothing to do with what the bill is actually for. Then if someone doesn't vote for it, they hate America.

This is even worse, a group of the left won't pass one bill altogether, because they want a completely different, way more expensive bill passed first. That's just wrong.

I'm sorry, blaming the right or Sinema/Manchin for the infrastructure bill not being passed, is not arguing in good faith imo.

Pass the damn infrastructure bill. It would be a huge piece of bipartisan legislation and a win for Biden. Then after the bill is passed, try to work on the other one. Then you can pile on McConnell, republicans, Manchin, Sinema, all you want about why they won't pass that bill.

You also know they could raise the debt ceiling too without a GOP vote, right?


Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

Trumps tax breaks and reckless spending is why we need to raise the damn debt ceiling. He would have bankrupt the damn country in four more years like he did with his own money countless times. Gotta pay your debt , but the man was a self proclaimed “lover of debt”. Cus it isn’t his money. Come on man. This is such hypocrisy from the right it is grotesque.

Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FA8GfECXMAwZRIe?format=png&name=small

From the Washington Post today. Schumer could raise it without any GOP help

Why doesn’t he?

Trumps tax breaks and reckless spending is why we need to raise the damn debt ceiling. He would have bankrupt the damn country in four more years like he did with his own money countless times. Gotta pay your debt , but the man was a self proclaimed “lover of debt”. Cus it isn’t his money. Come on man. This is such hypocrisy from the right it is grotesque.

Lol…lol…lol…trumps fault. Of course…lol…lol

Lol! Three times with Democratic support under Trump it was raised. Now it is on us so that the right can spin it like we are the reckless spenders? Ok.

The Republicans are either liars or cowards when it comes to the national debt.

Either liars and don't give a shit about it and will keep raising it, while only pretending to make an issue of it when they aren't in charge.

Or pathetic fucking cowards that won't stand up and fight and say we can't keep raising the debt and in-fact need to reduce it. And it would be a fight, because this would mean government would actually have to budget, reduce spending, etc.

Not really sure which one is worse. The party has failed America.

Our national debt is $28.43 trillion. That is 28,430,000,000,000. It's so many zeroes I had to Google how to even put it in actual number form.

It's almost like it's so big most people just don't bother caring about it, like it's no big deal. This should be a big fucking deal to every American, no matter how you vote.

Lol…lol…lol…trumps fault. Of course…lol…lol

Trump did spend way too much money. This is why I finally decided to re-register. I was hoping someone with a business side would be better. In hindsight, Mr. Bankruptcy was never going to reduce the debt. I don't recall Trump or republicans every talking about a budget or the debt while he was president, well before COVID was ever a thing.

Of course Biden is going to spend even more, Obama spent tons, Bush Jr. spent tons, etc. It's easy spending other people's money. Hell, even Reagan greatly expanded the national debt.