Snyder (the absolute worst owner in all of sports) to stay on a owner


FrenchSkin
04-01-2021, 08:56 PM
Its not a given that he wont sell, or be forced to sell, it has always been a long shot but now the ownership situation is a lot simpler and if anything makes selling easier. All the Billionaire Boys club wanted was to stop the minority owners from dragging the shield through the dirt. Now they are rid of them and the controversy fueled in most part by the minority owners wanting to force Dan to allow them to sell their stakes is fading away. Having 32 successful franchises (including Washington) is more important to them than keeping Snyder around to make them look good. I think it is in all their interests to have a strong and successful Washington franchise. I also think that they will not approve anymore sales of minority shares in the team if DS cannot play nice with minority owners.

Don't you think it would be an awful look for the NFL to appear as backing Snyder up and reenforcing his position... to then say a couple of months later "oh by the way he's a horrible person and needs to be punished with the most harsh thing ever enforced on an owner" ?

EdmundDorf
04-02-2021, 03:00 AM
Not necessarily, after all they have been delaying the release of the report, which would be the justification if they chose to force him to sell. I don't see it as necessarily them "backing him" as much as making another problem go away. If they had done this after the report was published, regardless of its recommendation, then it would look bad. It is still a very long shot that they force him to sell but I will always try to remain at least a little bit optimistic that at some point the league will grow tired of him being a distraction or even less likely he will evolve into a somewhat decent human being, because there is little to nothing else I can do about it

FrenchSkin
04-02-2021, 03:45 AM
Not necessarily, after all they have been delaying the release of the report, which would be the justification if they chose to force him to sell. I don't see it as necessarily them "backing him" as much as making another problem go away. If they had done this after the report was published, regardless of its recommendation, then it would look bad. It is still a very long shot that they force him to sell but I will always try to remain at least a little bit optimistic that at some point the league will grow tired of him being a distraction or even less likely he will evolve into a somewhat decent human being, because there is little to nothing else I can do about it

Wait, you don't think the league going all the way to bend its' own financial rules to allow him to buy out his minority owners at an absolute bargain price (franchise evaluated at 2.2billions while it may very well sell north of 5billions if it was sold now) is some sort of support ?

EdmundDorf
04-02-2021, 04:35 AM
It is some sort of support, but what I was saying was that it may just be to make the problem go away as much as support for DS personally. The owners have no fixed financial rules despite what they would like the world to believe, they let owners break the "debt" rules all the time when it comes to building a new stadium or moving a franchise as it sets a precedent that allows all of them to do it in the future. Extrapolating the franchise value from the sale of a minority stake with no voting power is misguided, I don't think it is a linear extrapolation.

FrenchSkin
04-02-2021, 05:05 AM
It is some sort of support, but what I was saying was that it may just be to make the problem go away as much as support for DS personally. The owners have no fixed financial rules despite what they would like the world to believe, they let owners break the "debt" rules all the time when it comes to building a new stadium or moving a franchise as it sets a precedent that allows all of them to do it in the future. Extrapolating the franchise value from the sale of a minority stake with no voting power is misguided, I don't think it is a linear extrapolation.

I'm aware voting power changes the value of the shares, that's why minority owners wanted Dan to be forced to sell, so their shares would be sold at a higher price. But 40% of a 5 billions worth franchise at 800M is still a bargain.

Anyway, that's not the point, the NFL didn't set this price, the point is I do think it's quite the endorsement, and they'd look like morons if they were to force him to sell in a couple of months/year. He's not going anywhere.

I also think it's a reminder that it's an owners' league, and unless something obviously outrageous and blatant comes out, and I mean "we don't have a choice" outrageous and blatant, they'll always lean towards protecting owners' power.

Warthog
04-02-2021, 05:39 AM
It seems like you put a lot of effort into this post so I ain't gonna ignore it.

But for me, until we see evidence that Snyder is back to his old ways, I trust Ron's process. If Ron can't fix it though, yeah we're probably fucked for life.


Maybe my overly long rant didn’t come out the way I wanted but I think we’re saying the same thing:

Rivera has total control until he either:

1. quits

2. hits the end of his contract and isn’t renewed

3. Snyder fires him


I’m completely psyched about the Rivera era. Look what he’s done in just one year. I’m especially excited about how he has been judicious in spending money on FA, by either forcing players to prove themselves in one year deals or hiring reasonably priced players to fill the weakest areas in the team. This is the exact opposite of Snyder/Cerrato/Allen decision-making which was to “win the Spring” by hiring one or two Uber-expensive “superstar FAs” every year to keep the fan base excited in the off season. However, these players were just cashing in and often played soft, or arrived in camp soft or got hurt easily. Most never came close to fulfilling their cost or potential or hype.

Rivera has also preserved his draft picks and did VERY WELL in his first draft!

I’m very happy as long as Rivera is around because he built his autonomy and independence into his contract. Especially if he keeps winning.

There is also a chance that (hopefully many, many years) in the future that Dan Snyder will learn from the Rivera experiment. That is to bring in NFL-experienced leadership to run an NFL franchise. We’ll see.

Still, I wonder what took Snyder so long to give someone like Rivera the keys to the kingdom. It was only after 20 years of losing, destroying the WFT fan base, being brought under investigation by the NFL, being sued by multiple employees and enduring a civil war within the organization led by the minority owners that Snyder decided to change. This is NOT a man who seems to learn from his mistakes.

For the years to come, Rivera is the man and Snyder just signs the checks!! Maybe Rivera will even influence Snyder to choose a real team name or let the fans pick it via a vote!
TRD

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Warthog
04-02-2021, 05:58 AM
The NFL Report on Snyder’s alleged crimes against his employees will NEVER be released. They will say, “ in order to save embarrassment to the employees of the WFT, this report will remain secret.”
However, Snyder will have to settle out of court with all that sued him. Snyder will be happy to buy his way out of this problem he created. The NFL will be happy to sweep this problem under the rug and Snyder’s transgressions never come to light.

The other owners in the NFC East are delighted to keep Snyder around because they know he will eventually worm his way back into micro-managing this team and messing it up. Also, until the WFT fan base returns, FedEx will be filled with tens of thousands of fans from Philly, NY or Dallas for our “home games”!!


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punch it in
04-02-2021, 07:48 AM
I guess we can drop the conspiracy theory that the league is behind every call that doesn’t go our way, every loss, every dropped ball now? I always hated that theory.

irish
04-02-2021, 07:52 AM
Snyder has owned the team since 1999, no reason now to believe that he will ever change for the better. Sooner or later I expect him to stick his nose into Ron's business and fuck this shit up. Just hope to enjoy the ride a bit before he messes it up again.

You nailed it!! DS will find some way to fuck things up, its only a matter of time.

rocnrik
04-02-2021, 08:58 AM
You nailed it!! DS will find some way to fuck things up, its only a matter of time.

We have had great coaches before under Snyder..Gibbs, shanny, Marty S, yep he meddled with them and the worse thing Snyder does (football related )is get involved in the player picks ( The Latest being Haskins) .. I’m not sure he can help himself there but with the staff Ron has put together it will be very hard for Danny boy to strongarm them ...

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