punch it in
04-02-2021, 09:24 AM
You seem to be just blowing off what Ron said. It's not a race, it's RF's job to lose. And RF hasn't sat his whole career, he's started 146 games, that's a lot of experience. Meanwhile TH has started 1 regular season game.
I am in no way comparing their careers was just making the point that Fitz isn’t a stranger to being a backup.
I am also not doubting that Fitz is the clear cut favorite to start week one, but if Heineken impresses in camp and Ron has that recent playoff game fresh in his head Fitz will be on a real short leash.
Would you honestly be shocked if Fitz gets benched for Heineken at some point this season?
punch it in
04-02-2021, 09:26 AM
Yes, TB won and they have Brady. But will Brady be there in 4 years? I doubt it. Who do they have on their roster that will be QB at that time? Probably nobody. Of course TB is thinking about the QB position when Brady leaves but they know that in the NFL the future is the 2021 season and they have their QB. I'm not saying don't plan for the future, you always have to keep that in the back of the mind. But the reality is the future is the 2021 season and WFT has its QB of the future.
Would you rather have a fleeting moment of joy winning a SB with Fitz or a 7-10 season saying "I'm glad we have our QB of the future"?
Definitely a Super Bowl. No doubt. But Eagles fans waited all of eternity for a Superbowl and how long did it take for a quarterback conundrum to occur? Couple years.
Human nature. We want it at all cost until we get it and then it’s almost immediately on to the next thing.
skinsfaninok
04-02-2021, 09:28 AM
You seem to be just blowing off what Ron said. It's not a race, it's RF's job to lose. And RF hasn't sat his whole career, he's started 146 games, that's a lot of experience. Meanwhile TH has started 1 regular season game.
Fitz is also underrated as hell, not to mention all of his teammates love the dude
I am in no way comparing their careers was just making the point that Fitz isn’t a stranger to being a backup.
I am also not doubting that Fitz is the clear cut favorite to start week one, but if Heineken impresses in camp and Ron has that recent playoff game fresh in his head Fitz will be on a real short leash.
Would you honestly be shocked if Fitz gets benched for Heineken at some point this season?
Shocked, no. But I don't think Ron will have a short leash with him either. RF will have to play himself out of the job (meaning at least 2-3 rough starts in a row) and I don't see that happening with the talent he's going to have around him.
irish
04-02-2021, 09:48 AM
Definitely a Super Bowl. No doubt. But Eagles fans waited all of eternity for a Superbowl and how long did it take for a quarterback conundrum to occur? Couple years.
Human nature. We want it at all cost until we get it and then it’s almost immediately on to the next thing.
Agree which is why chasing this "future QB" is fools gold. I am sure that KC is thinking about their future QB because there are no guarantees about how much longer Mahommes plays. WFT looked like it had its QB future locked up back in 2012 until RG3 got hurt and nothing was the same after that.
Monkeydad
04-02-2021, 10:53 AM
Shocked, no. But I don't think Ron will have a short leash with him either. RF will have to play himself out of the job (meaning at least 2-3 rough starts in a row) and I don't see that happening with the talent he's going to have around him.
The D will bail RF out too, he can still have a bad day and we can still win, which might help his job security a little.
punch it in
04-02-2021, 01:16 PM
Agree which is why chasing this "future QB" is fools gold. I am sure that KC is thinking about their future QB because there are no guarantees about how much longer Mahommes plays. WFT looked like it had its QB future locked up back in 2012 until RG3 got hurt and nothing was the same after that.
I would say there is no way KC is thinking about their future quarterback. Lol. I mean sure anything could happen but ya cant base your teams future on what if’s. RG-3 was different. He was never the passer Mahommes is. Not even close. I remember in 2012 people saying RG-3 ‘s style is not sustainable plus we had Cousins. Just a completely different situation. The idea is just to have a young solid quarterback and have that position wrapped up for the foreseeable future, and hope that nothing catastrophic happens to the dude.
punch it in
04-02-2021, 01:18 PM
Shocked, no. But I don't think Ron will have a short leash with him either. RF will have to play himself out of the job (meaning at least 2-3 rough starts in a row) and I don't see that happening with the talent he's going to have around him.
Yeah I would tend to agree but shit happens and honestly im not convinced Heineken cannot be a stud if he stays healthy. He really left an impression on me after making an awesome defense look silly. But hey if Fitz balls out im absolutely good with that. I like Fitz alot.
Brummie Brave
04-02-2021, 01:47 PM
Yeah I would tend to agree but shit happens and honestly im not convinced Heineken cannot be a stud if he stays healthy. He really left an impression on me after making an awesome defense look silly. But hey if Fitz balls out im absolutely good with that. I like Fitz alot.
Agreed. Heinicke made an impression on me too. I'm hoping he has the chance to demonstrate that it was down to innate ability and not just a one off because if that happens we have our guy for the future, with more than capable back up from Fitz for 2021
irish
04-02-2021, 02:59 PM
I would say there is no way KC is thinking about their future quarterback. Lol. I mean sure anything could happen but ya cant base your teams future on what if’s. RG-3 was different. He was never the passer Mahommes is. Not even close. I remember in 2012 people saying RG-3 ‘s style is not sustainable plus we had Cousins. Just a completely different situation. The idea is just to have a young solid quarterback and have that position wrapped up for the foreseeable future, and hope that nothing catastrophic happens to the dude.
Hindsight about RG3 is 20/20 but at the time everyone in WFT nation thought the QB spot was locked up for the foreseeable future. Turns out that future was less that 2 years.