Fitzmagic Thread

There absolutely should be a competition. Yes Heinecke was a one off, but Fitz is on a 1 year deal and is 38. They should bring in a late round rookie, and let them compete mainly so we know what we have in 2022.

Also, of course you go for Stafford over Heinicke that is a no brainer. But Fitz isnt Stafford, he is on his 9th team for a reason. If he wins the starting job that is fine and in 2022 we are back to the whole qb drawing board.

I think some of this discussion assumes I or others are arguing for Heinicke. I am not. I am saying the goal of the coaching staff should be to find a long term solution at the qb, and you do that through competition. Until we have a qb we can seriously count on for 3-4 years minimum there should be competition every year.

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WFT signing Fitz doesn't end the search for a QB of the future. Every team is looking for a QB of the future even teams like KC, and Balt. WFT needed a QB for the present, because it didn't have one, and Fitz is now that guy.

For those fans of having a "competition", why is Allen not getting any mention? Seems odd to leave out the likely #2.

For those fans of having a "competition", why is Allen not getting any mention? Seems odd to leave out the likely #2.For me it's because Fitz and TH are similar styles so i would prefer those two take the reps and the rest of the offense stay focused on that style. Kyle would better have followed AS in my opinion. But i am also open to taking a qb in the 3rd and let that qb compete with RF. Basically the point is whichever qb in camp not named Fitz that the coaches see a potential long term solution should have the opportunity to compete.

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There absolutely should be a competition. Yes Heinecke was a one off, but Fitz is on a 1 year deal and is 38. They should bring in a late round rookie, and let them compete mainly so we know what we have in 2022.

Also, of course you go for Stafford over Heinicke that is a no brainer. But Fitz isnt Stafford, he is on his 9th team for a reason. If he wins the starting job that is fine and in 2022 we are back to the whole qb drawing board.

I think some of this discussion assumes I or others are arguing for Heinicke. I am not. I am saying the goal of the coaching staff should be to find a long term solution at the qb, and you do that through competition. Until we have a qb we can seriously count on for 3-4 years minimum there should be competition every year.

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Why bring in another late-round rookie? Lets see what Montez can do. He's 6'5", mobile and a good athlete at QB. He's basically a plus-sized version of Heinicke.

For those fans of having a "competition", why is Allen not getting any mention? Seems odd to leave out the likely #2.

Agree. Allen is RR's version of Colt McCoy and will be the #2. Unless TH does something spectacular he will likely be the odd man out.

For me it's because Fitz and TH are similar styles so i would prefer those two take the reps and the rest of the offense stay focused on that style. Kyle would better have followed AS in my opinion. But i am also open to taking a qb in the 3rd and let that qb compete with RF. Basically the point is whichever qb in camp not named Fitz that the coaches see a potential long term solution should have the opportunity to compete.

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WFT currently has no QBs, not named Fitz, who are long term solutions at QB.

Agree. Allen is RR's version of Colt McCoy and will be the #2. Unless TH does something spectacular he will likely be the odd man out.

I'm not so sure. Heinicke and Allen were both backups brought over from Carolina, I'm not sure Coach Ron favors Allen as much as we may think he does. Heinicke is the one that just got paid decent backup money too, 2 years just under $5 mil. Allen's only signed for 1 year, $850K, plus we've seen him for an extended time with this team and didn't win games.

Agree. Allen is RR's version of Colt McCoy and will be the #2. Unless TH does something spectacular he will likely be the odd man out.

I say Heinicke makes the team but he will likely be inactive on game days as the #3. Fitz will start and Allen will be the #2. I don't think there will be any true competition going on.

I say Heinicke makes the team but he will likely be inactive on game days as the #3. Fitz will start and Allen will be the #2. I don't think there will be any true competition going on.

And if Fitz goes, down, Heinicke jumps to starter with Allen remaining the "gameday backup?"

I could see it happening.

I was looking at Fitzpatrick's situational stats on nfl.com in terms of interceptions over the last couple of seasons. Pretty interesting. It looks like his biggest struggle is between his own 20 and the 50. I wish they had it broken up by down and or distance to know more. He also tends to throw way more when behind which is not a surprise but he doesn't do to bad when behind by less than one score.
2018 playing behind by 9-16 points 4 TDs 6 INT
2018 playing behind by 8-1 points 2 TDs 2 INT
2019 9-16 points 2 TD 1 INT
2019 8-1 points 5 TD 2 INT
2020 9-16 points 1 TD 2 INT
2020 8-1 points 2 TD 3 INT

Not great but not bad. Last two years he was better passer first half of game than second by a fair margin but 2018 was awesome in 2nd half got better as game went on. Hopefully last two years not a trend.