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Honest question here, Joe Namath HOF career?

Different era's, can't compare. If he played in today's NFL? Probably not.

Honest question here, Joe Namath HOF career?


He had one year where his TD’s were more than his int’s and completed 50 percent of his passes for his career. Absolutely not. But he was a movie star quarterback and won a superbowl for the Jets so…

lol can't compare Namath to QBs of today, he played when the passing game was in the dinosaur age.

lol can't compare Namath to QBs of today, he played when the passing game was in the dinosaur age.


Compare him to his peers though, his numbers were still not good. More Ints than td’s in 11 out of 12 years? Thats awful.
Jonny U, Fran Tarkenton, etc.

As for Eli, I cannot put him
In based on rings that his defense won. I dont even think rings should have anything to do with it. Marino is obviously a hall of famer. Dilfer is obviously not.
Rings have too much to do with circumstance and situation which is completely beyond their control. Put Dan Marino on the 2000’s Giants team with that D and he certainly wins a couple. Put Eli on those Dolphins teams he wins zero and they probably dont even sniff playing in one. You have to look at career numbers.

As for Eli, I cannot put him
In based on rings that his defense won. I dont even think rings should have anything to do with it. Marino is obviously a hall of famer. Dilfer is obviously not.
Rings have too much to do with circumstance and situation which is completely beyond their control. Put Dan Marino on the 2000’s Giants team with that D and he certainly wins a couple. Put Eli on those Dolphins teams he wins zero and they probably dont even sniff playing in one. You have to look at career numbers.

So when you say career numbers are you talking about regular season only? Because the postseason counts too when talking about a career resume. And fair or not it's going to be weighed more heavily especially when you win 2. Everyone knows Marino was a brilliant QB who was stuck on mostly mediocre teams. And everyone knows Dilfer was a terrible QB who played with one of the best all time defenses. There's context to everything.

So when you say career numbers are you talking about regular season only? Because the postseason counts too when talking about a career resume. And fair or not it's going to be weighed more heavily especially when you win 2. Everyone knows Marino was a brilliant QB who was stuck on mostly mediocre teams. And everyone knows Dilfer was a terrible QB who played with one of the best all time defenses. There's context to everything.

And everyone knows that the Giants defense was the reason those Super Bowls were won so that context matters too.

We can hate it all we want but he also won two SB MVPs, more context

We can hate it all we want but he also won two SB MVPs, more context

So did Mark Rypien.

So did Mark Rypien.

Ryp won 1