simbosargos75
01-28-2021, 12:06 PM
Honestly how is trading for Stafford even a debate? Just get it done.
It's a debate. He's not nearly as good as some make him out to be. Wake me when he wins something.
I'd take him. No way I'm giving a 1st. Yeah, I know there'll be competition, blah blah blah. Cool. Let those other teams piss away a high pick on an injury-prone 33 year old. With back problems no less.
Offer 74. See what happens.
It's a debate. He's not nearly as good as some make him out to be. Wake me when he wins something.
I'd take him. No way I'm giving a 1st. Yeah, I know there'll be competition, blah blah blah. Cool. Let those other teams piss away a high pick on an injury-prone 33 year old. With back problems no less.
Offer 74. See what happens.
He's been on one of the most piss poorly run franchises in all of sports. I doubt anyone else would have had much more success there in Detroit. As for injuries he's started all 16 games in 9 of his 12 seasons and 1 of those 3 that he didn't was his rookie year.
AnonEmouse
01-28-2021, 12:59 PM
If you want to measure Stafford by the Lions success, then maybe Barry Sanders shouldn't be in the HoF?
simbosargos75
01-28-2021, 03:33 PM
If you want to measure Stafford by the Lions success, then maybe Barry Sanders shouldn't be in the HoF?
So now he's Barry Sanders level?
Anyway, I think people wildly overrate Stafford.
Let someone else make the mistake. Back problems scare the hell out of me since I have them myself. I know they're not all the same of course, but I would pass on Stafford at the price that's being talked about.
skinsfaninok
01-28-2021, 04:12 PM
So now he's Barry Sanders level?
Anyway, I think people wildly overrate Stafford.
Let someone else make the mistake. Back problems scare the hell out of me since I have them myself. I know they're not all the same of course, but I would pass on Stafford at the price that's being talked about.
He's a top 15 QB consistently. Better than what we've had in years. Is he Elite? No but he can win you 11 games or so with our defense
BaltimoreSkins
01-28-2021, 04:16 PM
If they overrate Stafford it is pretty much the entire league that overrates him. At his age the starting point in trades appears to be a 1st and a 3rd. It is going to go up from there.
AnonEmouse
01-28-2021, 06:11 PM
So now he's Barry Sanders level?
Anyway, I think people wildly overrate Stafford.
Let someone else make the mistake. Back problems scare the hell out of me since I have them myself. I know they're not all the same of course, but I would pass on Stafford at the price that's being talked about.
You didn't read what I wrote. If you measure Staffords success by the Lions results, then you'd have to measure Sanders in the same way. Put either in a better organisation and they would breed a winning team. Yes we've been dysfunctional for ages, but this year has shown that with the right approach and Snyder keeping his hands off, we can contend. A QB of his level on this team and that's at least 3-4 more wins last season, let alone next year with more holes filled.
Put it another way. Look around the NFC East. Possibly with the exception of Dak, would you take Stafford over any other QB in the division? I doubt you say no.
Monkeydad
01-29-2021, 03:48 PM
Let those other teams piss away a high pick on an injury-prone 33 year old. With back problems no less.
That's just false.
In Stafford's last 10 seasons, only one did he not play all 16 games.
2011 - 16 games
2012 - 16 games
2013 - 16 games
2014 - 16 games
2015 - 16 games
2016 - 16 games
2017 - 16 games
2018 - 16 games
2019 - 8 games
2020 - 16 games
Look for yourself: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/StafMa00.htm
And in the last 7 seasons, the most INTs he's thrown is 13. Any team could use a QB that durable and that efficient with the football.
Schneed10
01-30-2021, 09:55 AM
I’m going to repeat myself for the benefit of simbosargos. Since 2011, no QB has more game winning drives than Stafford.
Matt Stafford is tied for 7th all time, with John Elway, for 4th quarter comebacks.
GridIron26
01-30-2021, 10:38 AM
It's starting to look like WFT isn't an option for Stafford