sdskinsfan2001
03-10-2021, 12:36 AM
Thoughts on the H.R. 1 Bill?
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sdskinsfan2001 03-10-2021, 12:36 AM Thoughts on the H.R. 1 Bill? sdskinsfan2001 03-10-2021, 01:52 AM In regards to asylum. What is a legitimate reason for it to be accepted? It basically feels like anyone from any country not as good as America (which is all of them), should be able to claim asylum. Does anyone think that every person that comes here illegally is coming for asylum or that they just want to be here (which I don't blame them for)? And even if they are claiming asylum because they think it's truly justified, does anyone think the government is setting up asylum hearings for everyone, and when they don't show up, trying to find them and deport them back? Illegal immigration is a problem in this country and so is the process the government has created. All this talk about reform has been going on since Reagan, at least. Where the hell is the reform? Does it take 100 years? The people in charge don't care about reform. But not enough Americans demand actual change, so the same cycles go on and on. Note - I have a tendency to get frustrated and make sweeping generalizations. This is the only place I actually regularly talk about politics. Doesn't justify it, but I take my frustrations in general, out here. So you guys see me at my political worst very often. And I love all y'all, but it's still different without actually meeting anyone ever. Gonna try to ask more questions and set up a possibility for actual conversation. Bear with me, if even my questions still seem one-sided. That'll be a work in progress. Go Washington!! sdskinsfan2001 03-10-2021, 03:22 AM United Teachers Los Angeles: "If you are planning any trips for Spring Break, please keep that off of Social Media. It is hard to argue that it is unsafe for in-person instruction, if parents and the public see vacation photos and international travel." What are they even Spring Breaking from lol? Not working must be tough. But the hilarious part is they aren't saying don't take Spring Break vacations during a pandemic, where we're not doing our jobs because COVID is too dangerous, it's take the vacations, just leave the cell phones in the hotel room. MTK 03-10-2021, 09:17 AM "Progress" Arkansas Passes Near-Total Abortion Ban As Lawmakers Push For Supreme Court Case (https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975546070/arkansas-passes-near-total-abortion-ban-as-lawmakers-push-for-supreme-court-case) nonniey 03-10-2021, 03:52 PM "Progress" Arkansas Passes Near-Total Abortion Ban As Lawmakers Push For Supreme Court Case (https://www.npr.org/2021/03/10/975546070/arkansas-passes-near-total-abortion-ban-as-lawmakers-push-for-supreme-court-case) Problem is the extremists on both sides drive the legislation and lawsuits on this issue. It is the whole loaf or nothing position which is what Arkansas is trying here. The US allows for the most extreme abortion permissions on the planet. Most Americans want abortion to be legal but with some actual restrictions - right now states are permitted to have abortions with no restrictions if they so choose (ie Vermont, NY etc.). Arkansas should have pushed for legal abortions in the 1st trimester with strong restrictions after that. But no they pass a law that will get thrown out because they want to ban all abortions. SunnySide 03-10-2021, 05:01 PM Abortion .. pro choice .. pro life ... thats always a hard one for me. I think most reasonable heads agree there should be a time line where you can only have an abortion if it is medically necessary and recommended. But I understand if people thinks its murder, theres no concession from them. My problem with that segment is that they are usually very religious so they say at conception vs doctors who define life as when the fetus would be viable outside womb. I strongly disagree with religion steering politics. Besides .. doesnt the bible say a baby gets its soul at its quickening when it takes its first breath after birth and God enters and gives the baby its soul? 91% of abortions are within the first 13 weeks 1.4% of abortions occur after 21 weeks 24 weeks - around the time the fetus would be viable outside womb Did you know that the "clock" starts the day after their last period ends. So a woman could go almost 5-6 weeks before starting to wonder whey her period is late and then reasonably take steps to take a test. ---- I think: - there should be a 24 hour waiting period. Woman gets consult, then they set appointment at earliest 24 hours from then - Given literature on adoption options and counseling on that area if they want it - any abortion after 22 weeks would need a doctor approval - any abortion after 26 weeks would need doctor approval and medical necessity mooby 03-11-2021, 05:42 AM Problem is the extremists on both sides drive the legislation and lawsuits on this issue. It is the whole loaf or nothing position which is what Arkansas is trying here. The US allows for the most extreme abortion permissions on the planet. Most Americans want abortion to be legal but with some actual restrictions - right now states are permitted to have abortions with no restrictions if they so choose (ie Vermont, NY etc.). Arkansas should have pushed for legal abortions in the 1st trimester with strong restrictions after that. But no they pass a law that will get thrown out because they want to ban all abortions. Really? I feel like your perspective is lacking because any woman who carries a baby into the second and third trimester is someone who wants the baby. Most women who get second/third trimester abortions do so because the pregnancy is unviable and the mother or baby's life is at risk. Imagine carrying a baby for 3-6 months and then deciding nahhh, flush that shit out of me. How many women do you know of have done that? nonniey 03-11-2021, 11:31 AM Really? I feel like your perspective is lacking because any woman who carries a baby into the second and third trimester is someone who wants the baby. Most women who get second/third trimester abortions do so because the pregnancy is unviable and the mother or baby's life is at risk. Imagine carrying a baby for 3-6 months and then deciding nahhh, flush that shit out of me. How many women do you know of have done that? Yes really, and yes it is likely most women who get a late term abortion have to for medical reasons. You said it yourself - most. Giantone 03-11-2021, 11:51 AM No man should have any say on whether Abortion should be legal. MTK 03-11-2021, 11:59 AM ^^ I second that, as a guy I think we should say the F out of reproductive rights issues. |
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