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CRedskinsRule 01-28-2021, 11:32 PM It isn't possible. If Cleopatra and Helen of Troy materialize in my bedroom (fantasy world), be a great threesome. Ridiculous hypotheticals are a waste of time.
And honestly, I wouldn't trade for Stafford even for the #19 straight up because it is surrendering long-term value for a short-term stopgap. We know what we're getting, a very good but not great QB who is 33 next season, and has taken an absolute beating in Detroit, and has maybe 2-3 good years left, and it will take us 2 years minimum before we can be contender. I'd rather fill a long-term hole such as LT or CB or draft a QB we have for 5 years on a rookie deal, period.
You accept we aren't close to being a contender. You continue building, including with rookie QB you draft, or two of them. You don't trade premium picks for players on the backside of their career.Stafford will give you 5 years of as sure a thing as you can get in the NFL. You could trade up to 8 to try and guess at a qb, but you lose all hope if, as our history has shown, he doesn't pan out.
Obviously the trade and extended contract have to be in reason but dismissing the idea of bringing in a proven vet seems ridiculoulsy obstinate.
As for Tua, IF Watson wants to go to Miami and IF Miami wants Watson that opens the door for negotiations on Tua.
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sdskinsfan2001 01-28-2021, 11:34 PM Apparently people believe in medical advancements up until trading for a 33 year old QB.
Every time I get on the internet I'm hoping for a WFT QB move.
CRedskinsRule 01-28-2021, 11:35 PM Apparently people believe in medical advancements up until trading for a 33 year old QB.
Every time I get on the internet I'm hoping for a WFT QB move.Yeah. I am hoping something happens before the SB. If we have to go through the whole run up to the draft without a QB - just kill me now.
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mredskins 01-29-2021, 12:01 AM Stafford will give you 5 years of as sure a thing as you can get in the NFL. You could trade up to 8 to try and guess at a qb, but you lose all hope if, as our history has shown, he doesn't pan out.
Obviously the trade and extended contract have to be in reason but dismissing the idea of bringing in a proven vet seems ridiculoulsy obstinate.
As for Tua, IF Watson wants to go to Miami and IF Miami wants Watson that opens the door for negotiations on Tua.
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Pretty sure if Watson goes to Miami tau ends up in Houston
CRedskinsRule 01-29-2021, 12:06 AM Pretty sure if Watson goes to Miami tau ends up in HoustonYeah most likely, but I was suggesting a 3 way trade where we get Tau, Miami gets Watson and Houston gets the 3rd overall pick they got from Houston and our 19th, meaning miami keeps their 18th pick.
I don't know that it works or that Tua is worth it, just think there would be some chance to make that work for everyone.
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mredskins 01-29-2021, 12:16 AM Yeah most likely, but I was suggesting a 3 way trade where we get Tau, Miami gets Watson and Houston gets the 3rd overall pick they got from Houston and our 19th, meaning miami keeps their 18th pick.
I don't know that it works or that Tua is worth it, just think there would be some chance to make that work for everyone.
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Houston needs someone to replace Watson on the short term. Miami probably need to send their 3rd and 18 plus tau
sdskinsfan2001 01-29-2021, 12:30 AM Texans have to trade Watson. But they don't to trade him until draft day, unless someone goes insane. They have a chance to at least be reasonably competitive in 2022 if they make a solid trade.
Random thought - They might as well trade Watt too. Not to us. But the idea of Kerrigan and Watt going to the same team would be awesome (AFC team). Just 2 older amazing NFL citizens going out in a blaze of glory together. Titans have a good team and trash pass rush. That is my random offseason dream (if Kerrigan doesn't want to come back at No. 3).
I’d trade:
Plan C: Go for Stafford
2021: First & next year Third
Or
Sign Heinicke
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Fixed it lol, drafting a qb could have stayed but eh, that's tough. The Watson package tho hellllllllll no.
I hope one of these two happen
mooby 01-29-2021, 01:14 AM You guys really think giving up #19 for a qb who needs serious development in the passing game jives with Riverboat Ron's "window is open to win now" gameplan?
That idea sounds bad on many levels. If anything Tua is worth less than a first rounder now because teams know how much work he needs. You don't think that whole "insert Fitzpatrick to create Fitzmagic" at the end of the games isn't a strike against Tua?
SkinzWin 01-29-2021, 01:15 AM Thoughts on teams for Watson:
He’s not going to the Jets. 1. AFC team. 2. Unless Saleh is blowing a smoke stack out his ass, he’s been quoted numerous times praising and touting Darnold (something he isn’t obligated to do, he could be non-committal).
He’s not going to the Jags. They are a lock to build around Lawrence.
He’s not going to New Orleans. They are in cap hell. Current sitting $100m over the cap.
He’s not going to the Patriots. Cam is no bargaining chip and I don’t see Bellicheck mortgaging the farm when he recently has been quoted saying their poor performance this year is a direct result of mortgaging past years to win Super Bowls.
Chicago is off the table. Even as an NFC team, Mitch Trubiski is no trade bait, Robinson won’t be there and I don’t see Watson waiving his clause to go there.
Pittsburgh is loyal and will reach a renegotiated extension with Roethlisburger. No dice.
Denver could be an interested party, but again I don’t see Watson wanting to sign up to join the Bronco’s anemic offense.
No one is talking about this, but Detroit could try and trade Stafford for Watson, but ultimately I think Watson would poopoo a trade to Motown.
Raiders are a dark horse candidate because they could offer Carr and Gruden is crazy and might do anything.
Atlanta, a deeper dark horse, could come out of no where and trade Matty Ice and boatloads of picks. But Demitrov was more of a gambler with trading away draft capital (ie trading up for Julio Jones) and it remains to be seen what Fontenot will want to do.
Is Miami an option? AFC team. Media and fans are speculating but I have seen ZERO actual rumblings/insider tips stating that Miami is seriously discussing trading Tua for Watson.
Colts are a contender, but an AFC team. And I really don’t see Watson waiving his no trade clause to go there, they don’t have a ton of star power.
The Rams are a possibility, with Goff perhaps being on the block, good skill players and a dominant defense.
Panthers could be a contender. NFC team. They could offer Bridgewater, but other than McCaffrey, I don’t see any strong reason for Watson to want to go there.
49ers are a strong contender. NFC team. They could offer Garoppolo, have good skill players on offense and Shan-wow runs a QB friendly offense.
With all this said, I think there are a lot of teams that may be interested, but not a lot of teams Watson I want to go to.
With a limited list of teams that A) Watson would be willing to be traded to OR B) are willing to give up Houston’s most likely gong to be asking, that leaves:
the Washington Football team as the top prospect. Watson is pissed off with the good old boy mentality in Houston. WFT has the most diverse staff in the league. Check. Young core of talented up and coming players in both sides of the ball. Great offensive skills position players. Check. Dominant defense. Check. Tom’s of cap space. Check.
Deshaun Watson. Come on down to our nation’s capitol. The football’s fine.
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