WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021


Chief X_Phackter
01-28-2021, 12:26 AM
I never hated Kirk. I wanted him to stay here.

SFREDSKIN
01-28-2021, 12:27 AM
Why?

INT's at critical times over and over, holds on to the ball and takes a lot of sacks. If Raiders fans say he sucks, believe it.

Chief X_Phackter
01-28-2021, 12:31 AM
He throws less INTs and takes less sacks than Stafford.

SFREDSKIN
01-28-2021, 12:36 AM
I never hated Kirk. I wanted him to stay here.

I never said you did, that's for the people that didn't like Cousins and think Carr would be better.

Chief X_Phackter
01-28-2021, 12:47 AM
I never said you did, that's for the people that didn't like Cousins and think Carr would be better.

Oh ok. I must have misunderstood you when you responded to my post with:

...if you hated Kirk Cousins, you are going detest Carr.

SFREDSKIN
01-28-2021, 01:59 AM
If the 49ers make a move for a QB, I would inquire about Jimmy G. for a 3rd or 4th, much better than Carr.

Number44
01-28-2021, 02:33 AM
If the 49ers make a move for a QB, I would inquire about Jimmy G. for a 3rd or 4th, much better than Carr.

Interesting takes you have. You claim Carr takes too many sacks and throws too many interceptions; and say Garoppolo is much better than Carr. Garoppolo career 7.2 sack%, 2.7 int %. Carr career 4.9 sack%, 1.9 int %. Facts don't support your opinions. Overall stats favor Carr over Garoppolo in a big way. Carr is clearly the better trade target, IMO, if he is available.

Warthog
01-28-2021, 03:16 AM
I think the WFT needs to move toward getting a franchise QB now. Our DL is the cornerstone of this team, but as their rookie contracts end they will want to be paid. We won’t be able to keep them all.

An elite, franchise QB makes you into a winner. Not surprisingly the teams with the top QB are in the SB. MOST DRAFT PICKS ARE BUSTS. Even when you’re talking about draft picks in the first day, most aren’t even in the NFL in five years. If having great draft picks equaled success, then the worst teams in the NFL would turn in perennial winners - but neither Cleveland or OUR TEAM have done so. Part of the reason the WFT has failed in the last 20 years is because a football neophyte, Dan Snyder, has either made the top draft personnel choices or heavily influenced that choice. Ramsey, Campbell, RG3 and Haskins are all QB draft busts due to our owner.

Trade whatever you have to, to get an elite QB. Watson will cost a king’s ransom, but you’re a contender for 10 years. Stafford will cost far less, but his shelf life is just 3-6 years. Still, getting him will make you a contender for that period.

Alex Smith is not the answer and besides we need his cap savings this season. An immobile QB can not succeed in the NFL today, unless he is a HOF QB, which Alex is NOT. Heinicke MAY be the answer, but even with his monster game against the Bucs, he’s too uncertain to take a chance on. Sign him as a great backup.

It’s easy to say, “find the great QB who can be a HOFer, but isn’t in the top 3-4 QB taken in that year’s draft. MANY, Many GM’s passed up on Brady (6th round), Wilson and Mahomes. Finding the guaranteed winner QB in the draft is a needle in a haystack. Better to bet the farm on one of the QB FA and then build the team around him. Get either Watson or Stafford and then use any juice you have left to get an excellent FA WR and middle LB. The rest of the team you’re going to have to draft.

I’m disappointed that they’re letting Kyle Smith drift away. He’s good at getting starters from the lower draft picks and UDFA. We’ll need that ability if we can win bidding war that will occur for Stafford or Watson.


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Chief X_Phackter
01-28-2021, 10:00 AM
Interesting takes you have. You claim Carr takes too many sacks and throws too many interceptions; and say Garoppolo is much better than Carr. Garoppolo career 7.2 sack%, 2.7 int %. Carr career 4.9 sack%, 1.9 int %. Facts don't support your opinions. Overall stats favor Carr over Garoppolo in a big way. Carr is clearly the better trade target, IMO, if he is available.

I know right, it doesn't add up. Must be the eye test.

If San Fran is giving up on Jimmy G, that says a lot. Either they don't believe in his ability, or they don't believe in his availability. I'm not even trading a 7th round pick for him, and picking up that contract.

I'm glad he's SF's problem. They'll probably just release him and take the cap hit rather than pay him $50M over the next two years.

MTK
01-28-2021, 10:04 AM
Jimmy G is garbage. No way I'd want him over Carr. I'd rather stick with Allen or Heinicke over JG.

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