WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021


MissouriSkin
02-19-2021, 11:48 AM
To add to that, now more than ever, Snyder needs the team to win and for him to NOT be the focus of media. Given all the legal issues and the fight with the team's co-owners, the last thing Snyder wants is the spotlight on him.

And while it is right for us to be cautiously optimistic, there are plenty of moves which would have NEVER happen before, such as:

- Releasing AP
- Moving on from the likes of Eric Schaefer and Kyle Smith
- Getting rid of Haskins

Let's hope this continues.

For me, the Stanford move showed Dan was not involved. Once the bidding started, we didn’t up our offer, which means Dan didn’t offer way too much so he could “win”.

skinsfaninok
02-19-2021, 12:46 PM
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-trey-lance-college-football-2021-nfl-draft-profile-north-dakota-state

Nice write up here

SCRedskinsFan
02-19-2021, 02:04 PM
Just a random observation regarding the QB position in today’s NFL. For all intents and purposes, a QB that is able to move exceedingly well and run outside the pocket is a must, to the exclusion of all others, like Mac Jones. And quarterbacks in the Russel Wilson mold seem to be much sought and preferred.

In the face of all that, who is the apparent GOAT at that position, who was drafted in the sixth round because of athletic shortcomings? And who just won the Super Bowl as the classic traditional pocket passer he has always been? So despite our excitement about the athleticism of the current crop of candidates, we would be well served that good wheels are not necessarily a reliable predictor of QB success. We would broaden our consideration to those who are tough minded, able to read the defense well, who have a quick release and accuracy even under stress, and who sport a high football IQ. I’m thinking that these qualities are undervalued as we look at QB candidates, and are more likely found in the later rounds of the draft.

AnonEmouse
02-19-2021, 02:56 PM
While I agree in principle, Brady is almost one of a kind. He's a football genius to the point of often being able to predict exactly what a defence will do pre-snap; he studies much harder than many QB's. When he came out of college the league was still very much built around pocket passers and a run game. With more passing and more athletic DL (Sweat is probably fast enough to play S!), being mobile is essential without those skills and intangibles. Brady can move in and around the pocket to extend a play somewhat, but he's not going to get you 15 yards when your receivers are covered and a big hole opens up. He relies upon getting the ball out fast and not just that, to the guy with the best chance of making the desired yardage. He's great at PA which, with a good enough running game allows him to put defenders out of position, just as much as he's able to do so with his eyes etc.

From what I can see, even Mahomes didn't come out of college with some of those skills. He too is a good study and fast learner, but the SB showed that no natter how athletic you are, you have to have the football brain to make adjustments etc. College QB's with good mobility are sought after because while the coaching plans to bring through those skills, their mobility can get them out of trouble and extend plays.

I bet if Brady had played week 1 after he was drafted he might have been buried and never heard from again. He had a season and 2 games behind Bledsoe and likely wouldn't have started at all that second season had Bledsoe not gone down. And then it took him 5 games to get into his stride. He was given time to learn and mature into the role which he did with aplomb once he got going. It's said Mahomes year behind AS did him the world of good. But NFL teams now don't/won't show that patience with a rookie as a rule so they want a guy that can freelance if needs be while he learns and improves his game.

skinsfaninok
02-19-2021, 04:13 PM
https://riggosrag.com/2021/02/18/washington-football-team-should-avoid-half-measures-at-quarterback/

I say this too, roll with what we got and draft Trey Lance if we can move up a few spots to get him.

Fields will be long gone by pick 10

GridIron26
02-19-2021, 05:37 PM
https://riggosrag.com/2021/02/18/washington-football-team-should-avoid-half-measures-at-quarterback/

I say this too, roll with what we got and draft Trey Lance if we can move up a few spots to get him.

Fields will be long gone by pick 10

Yep.. I have been saying this since day 1 of the offseason, we will roll with Heinicke/Allen/rookie QB or Smith. It's not the ideal option but we have very limited options so we just need to focus on strengthen whole team for the next QB.

SkinzWin
02-19-2021, 06:58 PM
https://riggosrag.com/2021/02/18/washington-football-team-should-avoid-half-measures-at-quarterback/

I say this too, roll with what we got and draft Trey Lance if we can move up a few spots to get him.

Fields will be long gone by pick 10

Best article I’ve read in a minute. I’m in total agreement that we should be against mid tier free-agent pick ups. Definitely advocating for a top tier quarterback or ride with what we got and put those draft picks and free agent money into solidifying other position groups so we can go all out to attack for a top FA QB or trade up in the draft for a top prospect next year.

Chief X_Phackter
02-19-2021, 07:41 PM
Best article I’ve read in a minute. I’m in total agreement that we should be against mid tier free-agent pick ups. Definitely advocating for a top tier quarterback or ride with what we got and put those draft picks and free agent money into solidifying other position groups so we can go all out to attack for a top FA QB or trade up in the draft for a top prospect next year.

Still don't think they can just roll with Heinicke & Allen. Heinicke has been injured in every NFL game he has started, and Allen is coming off a bad ankle injury. Not exactly a dynamic duo. It's a dumb idea to roll with that, and it would be complete negligence. If they both got hurt, it's over.

Chief X_Phackter
02-19-2021, 07:53 PM
I think the article is recommending that if they can't sign a top-tier FA, or trade up for one of the top rookies, then they should save their resources and sign a low-priced free agent quarterback, rather than trade for Darnell, Mariota, etc.

SkinzWin
02-19-2021, 08:16 PM
I think the article is recommending that if they can't sign a top-tier FA, or trade up for one of the top rookies, then they should save their resources and sign a low-priced free agent quarterback, rather than trade for Darnell, Mariota, etc.

Yeah I didn’t articulate that the way I wanted reading my post again. I agree it would be negligent to not sign anyone else. But short of a top tier FA or draft pick, our target should be a low priced vet, not mortgaging draft picks or sizable cap space for a mid tier QB who will most likely not provide much, if any, real upside over our current QB tandem.

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