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SkinzWin 02-16-2021, 07:25 PM The Jets are so far away from being good , Watson wouldn’t save them right now so there is no point in giving up 3 1s if I’m the Jets
I’m starting to think that the Texans are going to be their own worst enemy (yet again) and instead of striking while the iron was hot initially, they going to deny or slow play trading Watson and then after the draft when they realize that he’s serious and isn’t going to play ball with McNair and the Boys, will get only a fraction in future picks because the QB market will have been filled by rookie draftees in many cities.
This whole 3 1st business isn’t going to take off.
mooby 02-16-2021, 08:13 PM Interesting that he said McCloughan basically underestimated Kirk's value. No wonder Kirk wanted out, from being second fiddle to RG3 to listening to ridiculous low ball offers from the team.
And like we all thought, should have traded him to SF when they had the chance. Probably could have got a nice package of picks for him.
Also makes me wonder who pulled the trigger on the Alex Smith trade, was that a Bruce Allen play? At the time I agreed why we gave up such a high price for a guy who was about to be replaced.
sdskinsfan2001 02-16-2021, 08:24 PM I still like the Alex trade. Fuller is solid, but not a game-changer. We needed to get a QB. And we were winning games until that devastating injury. Trades are always risky in any sport, but even moreso in the NFL, due to the frequency of injuries, let alone the most brutal ever.
skinsfaninok 02-16-2021, 08:54 PM I still like the Alex trade. Fuller is solid, but not a game-changer. We needed to get a QB. And we were winning games until that devastating injury. Trades are always risky in any sport, but even moreso in the NFL, due to the frequency of injuries, let alone the most brutal ever.
That's true, I believe we were 6-3 when he got hurt.. Jay talked about it in his interview
Chief X_Phackter 02-16-2021, 10:34 PM I still like the Alex trade. Fuller is solid, but not a game-changer. We needed to get a QB. And we were winning games until that devastating injury. Trades are always risky in any sport, but even moreso in the NFL, due to the frequency of injuries, let alone the most brutal ever.
Yeah I liked the trade then, knowing that Kirk wasn't coming back.
I haven't listened to the Jay G interview yet, but didn't Jay say that he thought that they might have been able to sign Alex (rather than trade for him), because KC probably would have released him?
I'm wondering now, if RR and company really like Mariota, since his cap hit will be so much for a backup QB, if they don't just wait to see if LV releases him. I'm not sure what (if any) cap hit LV would incur if they just outright released him.
sdskinsfan2001 02-16-2021, 10:44 PM Yeah I liked the trade then, knowing that Kirk wasn't coming back.
I haven't listened to the Jay G interview yet, but didn't Jay say that he thought that they might have been able to sign Alex (rather than trade for him), because KC probably would have released him?
I'm wondering now, if RR and company really like Mariota, since his cap hit will be so much for a backup QB, if they don't just wait to see if LV releases him. I'm not sure what (if any) cap hit LV would incur if they just outright released him.
I haven't listened either. That seems to the consensus on what he said about Alex.
I don't think there are 32 QBs better than Mariota. That's a risky game if you want him on the team next year.
That being said, I want to wait to see how the draft plays out before trading for anyone. I'd rather have a rookie than a veteran.
Chief X_Phackter 02-16-2021, 10:54 PM I haven't listened either. That seems to the consensus on what he said about Alex.
I don't think there are 32 QBs better than Mariota. That's a risky game if you want him on the team next year.
That being said, I want to wait to see how the draft plays out before trading for anyone. I'd rather have a rookie than a veteran.
It's risky for sure. If they do indeed want him.
There's no guarantee a QB they like will fall to #19, or that anyone will take an offer to trade up to get a QB they like. So I don't think they can wait until the draft plays out before addressing the QB situation. That's almost May... Free agency opens on March 17th. I would expect them to be actively pursuing a QB in free agency, if they haven't already traded for a Veteran. It will be hard to lure a top WR or TE here with Heinicke as the only QB on the roster. Even if Smith is still hanging around.
sdskinsfan2001 02-16-2021, 11:03 PM It's risky for sure. If they do indeed want him.
There's no guarantee a QB they like will fall to #19, or that anyone will take an offer to trade up to get a QB they like. So I don't think they can wait until the draft plays out before addressing the QB situation. That's almost May... Free agency opens on March 17th. I would expect them to be actively pursuing a QB in free agency, if they haven't already traded for a Veteran. It will be hard to lure a top WR or TE here with Heinicke as the only QB on the roster. Even if Smith is still hanging around.
Word. Definitely more than 1 way to go about handling the QB situation. I'm not locked into any 1 idea and all the rest are bad. That's just my personal preference.
Chief X_Phackter 02-16-2021, 11:48 PM Word. Definitely more than 1 way to go about handling the QB situation. I'm not locked into any 1 idea and all the rest are bad. That's just my personal preference.
I'm not sure I have a preference at this point. Whatever they do won't satisfy everyone. It's tough with half the league looking to solidify their QB situation. It's a good year to be a free agent QB.
sdskinsfan2001 02-17-2021, 12:03 AM I'm not sure I have a preference at this point. Whatever they do won't satisfy everyone. It's tough with half the league looking to solidify their QB situation. It's a good year to be a free agent QB.
100% true. Reason number 1 why front offices shouldn't give 2 shits about the fan's opinions, when it comes to player acquisition. There are give or take a million fans in this country for every team (and this is probably a conservative estimate). No matter what they do the majority will dislike it.
Every offseason is interesting, but in terms of the QB position, it's definitely more interesting than most years. We're all guessing how it will turn out.
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