WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Does he really need to see it to know its there? No smoke without fire.

I'm sure Ron came into this situation with his eyes wide open.

Jay had a good point that as the HC you can't control the culture if you don't have a say in who comes or goes. Ron has that at least.

I preface this with saying I have not listened to the interview so my judgement mainly comes from the comments on the board. No one forced Gruden to stay for 5 years ending up with a net worth of 12Million dollars for coaching this team in a sea of mediocrity. From the comments here, I hear a whining motivationally challenged leader who neither inspired players, nor earned enough respect to even call the most basic goal line play in existence. Gruden may not have known DS before the RGIII/KC debacle, but by the Haskins draft he certainly had enough leverage to say if I don't get to pick the QB I'm leaving (and at that point someone would have hired him as a HC).

This isn't a defense of Snyder, but it's a fallacy at the highest to say that JG couldn't control the culture. He set the culture by accepting mediocrity, by not standing up for his players, and by being inept at understanding his players (for example: why set your qb up for failure by calling a play the WR doesn't like). The KC kneel even more now highlights a myriad of failures at a leadership level on both the part of KC and on Gruden.

I preface this with saying I have not listened to the interview so my judgement mainly comes from the comments on the board. No one forced Gruden to stay for 5 years ending up with a net worth of 12Million dollars for coaching this team in a sea of mediocrity. From the comments here, I hear a whining motivationally challenged leader who neither inspired players, nor earned enough respect to even call the most basic goal line play in existence. Gruden may not have known DS before the RGIII/KC debacle, but by the Haskins draft he certainly had enough leverage to say if I don't get to pick the QB I'm leaving (and at that point someone would have hired him as a HC).

This isn't a defense of Snyder, but it's a fallacy at the highest to say that JG couldn't control the culture. He set the culture by accepting mediocrity, by not standing up for his players, and by being inept at understanding his players (for example: why set your qb up for failure by calling a play the WR doesn't like). The KC kneel even more now highlights a myriad of failures at a leadership level on both the part of KC and on Gruden.

He wasn't whining and he acknowledged he knew what he was signing up for. He was just speaking to the challenges here. It's a good listen check it out.

When Carr was mentioned Gruden said "Well yeah but he's not available and my brother loves him"

Sounds like Carr isn't going anywhere

When Carr was mentioned Gruden said "Well yeah but he's not available and my brother loves him"

Sounds like Carr isn't going anywhere

Now that's funny. Are we sure Jay wasn't smoking pot before the interview?

REPORT: Panthers are preparing to make a strong push for Deshaun Watson and "will do whatever it takes” to get him, including giving up three first-round draft picks and Christian McCaffrey

(H/T :
@DNewtonespn
)

Now that's funny. Are we sure Jay wasn't smoking pot before the interview?

Sounds like it. The other Gruden has been complaining about Carr since he got there.

If I'm Houston I pull the trigger on that deal Asap

REPORT: Panthers are preparing to make a strong push for Deshaun Watson and "will do whatever it takes” to get him, including giving up three first-round draft picks and Christian McCaffrey

(H/T :
@DNewtonespn
)

Whoa.. Houston should take this offer.