WFT's Off-Season Thread


CRedskinsRule
05-28-2021, 09:19 AM
On the last play (comical one) i would actually praise him for that. Didn't happen on this play, but that is how reverses and flea flickers are prevented from happening. If opponents see tape of him biting on the run they will surely send some reverses, or other tricks to take advantage of it.

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FrenchSkin
05-28-2021, 09:43 AM
On the last play (comical one) i would actually praise him for that. Didn't happen on this play, but that is how reverses and flea flickers are prevented from happening. If opponents see tape of him biting on the run they will surely send some reverses, or other tricks to take advantage of it.

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Nah he still has a run contain responsibility, he can't just bail out on the run because sometimes there are trick plays. Plus the timing on this one is way beyond being cautious in case of trick plays IMO, the QB is clearly out of the play, and nobody is in position to take any kind of reverse.
There's a world between biting too early (and giving reasons to future opponents to call trick plays) and back pedaling several seconds after it has become clear it's a plain run.

Again, great signing, great addition. Just saying he's not gonna make plays against the run and it might create some frustrating situations, like conceding a 3rd and 9 on an outside run. That's something guys like Kyle Fuller or Moreland at very good at.

mooby
05-28-2021, 09:43 AM
Still doubting his drive to succeed?

He's always been pretty jacked but he looks like a monster now.




Come on man, being jacked =/= success in the NFL. Ask Laron Landry how that worked out for him.

If he can't learn technique or he gets injured all those weightlifting sessions aren't gonna help him make the team.

MTK
05-28-2021, 09:56 AM
I don't think anybody has every questioned Tebow's drive or ability to lift heavy weights and put them down.

CRedskinsRule
05-28-2021, 09:57 AM
Nah he still has a run contain responsibility, he can't just bail out on the run because sometimes there are trick plays. Plus the timing on this one is way beyond being cautious in case of trick plays IMO, the QB is clearly out of the play, and nobody is in position to take any kind of reverse.

There's a world between biting too early (and giving reasons to future opponents to call trick plays) and back pedaling several seconds after it has become clear it's a plain run.



Again, great signing, great addition. Just saying he's not gonna make plays against the run and it might create some frustrating situations, like conceding a 3rd and 9 on an outside run. That's something guys like Kyle Fuller or Moreland at very good at. edit. Nevermind

MTK
05-28-2021, 10:00 AM
Come on man, being jacked =/= success in the NFL. Ask Laron Landry how that worked out for him.

If he can't learn technique or he gets injured all those weightlifting sessions aren't gonna help him make the team.

How about Robert McCune back in 2005? The man crushes on this guy were out of control. Dude looked like he was chiseled out of granite but he simply couldn't play.

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MissouriSkin
05-28-2021, 10:43 AM
Nah he still has a run contain responsibility, he can't just bail out on the run because sometimes there are trick plays. Plus the timing on this one is way beyond being cautious in case of trick plays IMO, the QB is clearly out of the play, and nobody is in position to take any kind of reverse.
There's a world between biting too early (and giving reasons to future opponents to call trick plays) and back pedaling several seconds after it has become clear it's a plain run.

Again, great signing, great addition. Just saying he's not gonna make plays against the run and it might create some frustrating situations, like conceding a 3rd and 9 on an outside run. That's something guys like Kyle Fuller or Moreland at very good at.

That’s a pretty long reach based off of one play.

FrenchSkin
05-28-2021, 10:49 AM
That’s a pretty long reach based off of one play.

That's actually 2 full games where he consistently was not going for any kind of frontal contact and consistently looked hesitant when he was in position to make the tackle.
Granted, not a full season, not his full career, can't tell how much of it is coaching, but that's something to keep an eye on, and from what I saw so far that's the only knock on him.

FrenchSkin
05-28-2021, 10:53 AM
edit. Nevermind

I don't know how my posts come off. I'm a fan of this signing. I'm just saying on 2 games, the only knock I saw was he looked kinda of hesitant to go make a play on the ball carrier.

MissouriSkin
05-28-2021, 11:08 AM
I don't know how my posts come off. I'm a fan of this signing. I'm just saying on 2 games, the only knock I saw was he looked kinda of hesitant to go make a play on the ball carrier.

Right....but it’s hard to state it as a rock solid fact like you do when you don’t necessarily know who was supposed to be doing what on any given play. Also looking at two games when the guy has played several years may not be an accurate sample size. For all we know he had a bum shoulder or something in those games and they told him to lay off heavy contact. 🤷*♂️ By all accounts we got a really good player, so I wouldn’t sweat it just yet.

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