WFT's Off-Season Thread

Watch, it's all about a Scherff extension...and not a contract for J Allen.Oh I wouldn't be opposed to that ! That'd make the tag way more logical !
Allen's extension is more likely though.

Don't you think the timing with Moses is weird ? Like "go seek a trade... 1 ... 2 ...3 ... Too late you're cut !".
Wonder what kind of value we could've gotten back... But is it just because they need the cap now for something else (extension, new addition etc...) or is there something to know about Moses ? Like a story about to come, or some beef with Ron and co ?

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Do they qualify for a compensatory pick if a player is cut?

How long are you supposed to hang on to a player you announced to the world you were willing to trade, when immediately after you announced this, no one asked you about said player?

More than 3 days?

What does that do?

Better off moving on, and letting that player negotiate his own deal.

Bottom line ... No team was willing to give us a draft pick to pick up MM's contract. Whoever he winds up with won't be paying him the $7.5 million we were set to.


We got younger with this move, and we saved money. A pretty solid combination.

How long are you supposed to hang on to a player you announced to the world you were willing to trade, when immediately after you announced this, no one asked you about said player?

More than 3 days?

What does that do?

Better off moving on, and letting that player negotiate his own deal.

Bottom line ... No team was willing to give us a draft pick to pick up MM's contract. Whoever he winds up with won't be paying him the $7.5 million we were set to.


We got younger with this move, and we saved money. A pretty solid combination.

I'd say if you think you can get some sort of value back, yeah you can wait more than 3 days, what's the urge ?
Not mad about it at all, just wondering if there's something we don't know, because I'm thinking we could've gotten something back (late round pick).

Morgan Moses - RT - Cut - A

This isn't about hating on Moses the player. He is solid, probably top 10-20 in terms of RTs in league. We have a fortune tied up in interior OL, and for once, more players to resign in coming years than we can probably afford. Moses has been a human penalty machine at times, and has been blown up in pass coverage a fair amount, but none could dispute he is a good player.

Why the A grade then? Moses is no longer in his prime, is due $17M next two years, we are a young rebuilding team. Cutting Moses ultimately means prioritizing money for younger players and trusting to younger players, Cosmi or Charles. We no longer have so few good players that we have the luxury of nostalgically clinging to them all. This is a hard-nosed move, the kind the old Pats made, which ensures LONG TERM success. It is the type of move that good teams have to have the nuts to make. For once we have a FO with nuts. That doesn't mean there won't be a drop off or growing pains this year, but it was still the right move.

G. Christian - T - A+++

Christian had every chance to step up and earn a starting role, but never did. He never developed as hoped. Time to cut losses.

Our Ts: Leno, Cosmi, Charles, Lucas. Sharpe 5th. We could debate whether Sharpe better than Christian, but other 4 are for sure.

One thing you hope is that Cosmi given chance to win LT position, not moved to RT immediate. We should groom our long-term LT at that position, move to RT only if he fails.

Oh I wouldn't be opposed to that ! That'd make the tag way more logical !
Allen's extension is more likely though.

Don't you think the timing with Moses is weird ? Like "go seek a trade... 1 ... 2 ...3 ... Too late you're cut !".
Wonder what kind of value we could've gotten back... But is it just because they need the cap now for something else (extension, new addition etc...) or is there something to know about Moses ? Like a story about to come, or some beef with Ron and co ?

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This article contains a bit of speculation, but it actually does make sense.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/20/22446551/an-attempt-to-dissect-the-morgan-moses-situation

This article contains a bit of speculation, but it actually does make sense.



https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/20/22446551/an-attempt-to-dissect-the-morgan-moses-situationGREAT read thanks.

Good point about not needing to clear space in order to extend Allen as the move could actually save some 2021 cap.

If we're going the "another addition" route, KJ Wright and Kwon Alexander are still available, aren't they ?

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I think it is a little odd that they cut Moses now if they don't need the money for signing someone. We have depth now but don't know what is going to happen between now and the end of camp in terms of injury, or if another team loses a tackle and is in desperate need before final cuts which would provide some trade interest. If they don't use the cap space that they have gained and one of those two things happens then they are going to look a little stupid.

They don't need cap space to extend Scherff or Allen, but there are a couple of others such as Logan Thomas who would be worth it

On the plus side we will have a butt load of cap space again next season