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FrenchSkin 05-18-2021, 07:55 PM I let Allen walk. I would not resign him because to me he is a JAG. Is he any better than Settle? I don't think so. He isn't better than Payne or Matt I. He is our 3rd best DT yet will command top DT money. And even though he is everything you want in a player off the field, he is just an average guy on it.Strongly disagree.
I've been a Settle supporter, I think he's underrated, but Allen's potential is bigger. He is very consistent and has some games where he is just a monster.
Throw in the work ethic and you know this staff wants him back.
We have a young roster, and thus cap available, I see nothing wrong with trying to retain what this team is built on: freakish Dline!
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Chico23231 05-18-2021, 08:15 PM Leno LT, Cosmi RT
punch it in 05-18-2021, 09:06 PM Moses had a good 2020 and his holding penalty addiction seemed to subside. He is always, always healthy and He isn’t owned a ton of money. Im not a fan of this move at all. You do what you need to do to keep him.
punch it in 05-18-2021, 09:11 PM I like Moses, but good teams know when it's time to say goodbye - even if the fans don't understand the reasons.
He had a pretty good year last year, and a couple good years sprinkled in during his time here, but he has had his share of injuries (played through a lot of them), and his average PFF grade from 2014-2019 is 67.2.
Confident RR and Company have a plan here with Cosmi, Charles, Lucas, and Leno.
He hasn’t missed a start in 6 years, and the money is not an issue. It is a strange situation. And honestly who gives a shit about a pff grade. The guy is our starting right tackle and better than anyone else on our team to currently to man that position. This is not progress, it is a problem. A weird, unexpected problem.
punch it in 05-18-2021, 09:22 PM Jon Allen is kinda like Kerrigan was. Respected, great locker room guy, competent and effective. Not someone fans see as a critical piece though.
Im a fan and see him as extremely critical. Are we suddenly so good after a 7-9 record that we can shed starting tackles on both side of the line - Allen and Moses- and not miss a beat? I mean let the year play out before the coaching staff and FO thinks that they are all time greats and can win with anyone for Gods sake. Not implying you think that just sayin pump the breaks on we have Vince Lombardi and Bobby Beathard in the house. Allen and Moses are critical this year.
CRedskinsRule 05-18-2021, 09:26 PM He hasn’t missed a start in 6 years, and the money is not an issue. It is a strange situation. And honestly who gives a shit about a pff grade. The guy is our starting right tackle and better than anyone else on our team to currently to man that position. This is not progress, it is a problem. A weird, unexpected problem.I wonder if it goes to a conflict of work ethics. We know RR has certain standards and expectations. There was a story of RR when he started with Carolina some players were saying "thats not how its done here" and RR made it clear it was to be done his way.
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CRedskinsRule 05-18-2021, 09:34 PM Im a fan and see him as extremely critical. Are we suddenly so good after a 7-9 record that we can shed starting tackles on both side of the line - Allen and Moses- and not miss a beat? I mean let the year play out before the coaching staff and FO thinks that they are all time greats and can win with anyone for Gods sake. Not implying you think that just sayin pump the breaks on we have Vince Lombardi and Bobby Beathard in the house. Allen and Moses are critical this year.Allen isnt going anywhere, my point i was trying to say, but clearly not clearly, is only that fans undervalue the talent we have. So you heard fans bitch about Kerrigan not showing up but he is our all time sack leader. Fans will say Allen is just a guy but his value to the coaches he is much more than that.
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SFREDSKIN 05-18-2021, 10:02 PM @RapSheet
The Washington Football Team is likely moving on from long-time starting OT Morgan Moses, sources say, giving Moses the ability to seek a trade. Moses is due $7.75M in 2021 and if a team trades for the dependable player, it picks up the salary.
They should have moved Moses to LT (he actually played really well as a LT) instead of signing Leno and put Cosmi at RT. Maybe Moses has an attitude like his buddies Williams and Dunbar?
Chico23231 05-18-2021, 10:10 PM They should have moved Moses to LT (he actually played really well as a LT) instead of signing Leno and put Cosmi at RT. Maybe Moses has an attitude like his buddies Williams and Dunbar?
I do believe it’s more attitude and team fit than performance. Moses was good last year and he was solid many past years as well…
Wish we woulda moved him before the draft, could have gotten a decent pick. Not 1st or second, but mid round. We won’t get much now, maybe a pick swap or 6th rounder at best…which is a front office fail as he is a solid starter in the league.
Scalper 05-18-2021, 10:30 PM Strongly disagree.
I've been a Settle supporter, I think he's underrated, but Allen's potential is bigger. He is very consistent and has some games where he is just a monster.
Throw in the work ethic and you know this staff wants him back.
We have a young roster, and thus cap available, I see nothing wrong with trying to retain what this team is built on: freakish Dline!
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No way Allen is JAG. He is probably also not nearly as good as the money he commands. Not an easy decision, think it comes down to what he can be signed for. Dumping Moses' salary makes keeping Allen much more probable, or at least possible.
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