Chaos at the Capitol: New thread edition

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mredskins
01-07-2021, 11:10 AM
Perhaps this is a 4 year long street performance for the aspiring entertainer? At the very least I can't imagine this was a good resume builder,

the naked cowboy was there

MTK
01-07-2021, 11:22 AM
Were these guys arrested?

Capitol riots: Who broke into the building? (https://www.bbc.com/news/55572805)

mredskins
01-07-2021, 11:33 AM
Were these guys arrested?

Capitol riots: Who broke into the building? (https://www.bbc.com/news/55572805)

I just don't understand how thy got so far into the building, someone or someone's had to have helped them gain that much access.

Other then that one broke window i don't see a bunch of force entry

MTK
01-07-2021, 11:41 AM
I just don't understand how thy got so far into the building, someone or someone's had to have helped them gain that much access.

Other then that one broke window i don't see a bunch of force entry

I don't get how security was so lax to begin with. All of these morons obviously had Jan 6th circled on their calendars, you can't tell me we didn't have intelligence from online chatter to indicate that something big was in the works from these wacko groups like Q and the Proud Boys. Complete fail on so many levels.

Giantone
01-07-2021, 11:49 AM
I wonder if this tension between liberal nanny state and laissez faire capitalism is how the country felt leading up to the civil war. The level of difference between the two sides now, and the growing width of the violent fringe on both sides of our society seem destined to implode. Ironically the two sides are amazingly similar to the 1860s. Not specifically speaking about racism, but the rural or land owning class versus the industrial/urban class.

Not shockingly I think opposite of G1 in that I believe a mixed congress with biden as president could have done so much good toward bridging the divide, but a stacked liberal federal government will exacerbate the differences as the extreme left push an out of balance agenda through.

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Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?

Giantone
01-07-2021, 11:52 AM
I don't get how security was so lax to begin with. All of these morons obviously had Jan 6th circled on their calendars, you can't tell me we didn't have intelligence from online chatter to indicate that something big was in the works from these wacko groups like Q and the Proud Boys. Complete fail on so many levels.

The security was around where the speeches were , that's where the trouble was expected . No one thought trump would send them to the Capital to attack it. The communication between all the groups was terrible.

SunnySide
01-07-2021, 11:53 AM
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346911809274478594?s=20

^^ video of the moment protestors entered the capitol through a side door. really good interesting video, about 1.5 mins, you can feel the tension and the moment its breached

I highly encourage everyone to watch it

Just one officer running down the stairs .. how he restrained himself to not hit that dude with his baton I have no idea

https://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/shared/npr/styles/x_large/nprshared/202101/954048091.jpg

^^ this guy basically walked back that officer

CRedskinsRule
01-07-2021, 11:59 AM
Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?Yes i did. My best government is split house and senate with a republican president

I can actually rank all of them because of the different powers each house has

Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty

Next is pres dem house rep senate dem

Then pres dem house dem senate rep

Next is any combination where president is one party and house/senate are the other party

Finally the worst combination is when one party controls all 3 sections because you disenfranchise half the population and it skews the policies too far one way.

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SunnySide
01-07-2021, 12:21 PM
Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty


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Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.

If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.

But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.

CRedskinsRule
01-07-2021, 12:33 PM
Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.



If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.



But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.Neither side compromised. Obviously in any of those options the underlying requirement is that the idiots cooperate with the other idiots

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