SunnySide
01-09-2021, 09:45 AM
Trump did not collide with Russia. He said hypothetically he would look at any info a foreign country had.
His son meet with them but left after realizing it was fake.
Russia interfered by doing fake Twitter and social media manipulation to feed gas to a fire.
Manafort and Flynn and one other guy did apparently try to leverage their positions within the trump admin with Russia.
Obama learned about Russian and Chinese interference and secretly briefed both parties. He said he was conflicted on telling the public because he didn’t want to interfere or have the appearance of interfering bc the Russian propaganda was to help trump and he didn’t want to seem like the POTUS office was making political attacks on a candidate. If you have a problem with how Obama handled things, I would suggest your bias is clouding your opinion. He briefed both parties but tried to keep it out of public discussion.
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Why are we talking about this? This is just a distraction tactic to take discussion away from what trump has done recently. Much like a tucker Carlson brining up past BLM stuff when people are talking current MAGA storming the capitol.
Anyways ... trump is gone in the 20th. Dems have control as fas as a Manchin or Romney or Mutkowski will let them.
I’m going to enjoy a nice boring sleepy joe presidency. Replace a few Supreme Court justices, take a look at fixing some portions of the tax code that trump used to attack blue states, just normal American politics stuff. The AOCs and Cruz of the world can huff and puff all they want but it’s centrist time!
CRedskinsRule
01-09-2021, 10:22 AM
Trump did not collide with Russia. He said hypothetically he would look at any info a foreign country had.
His son meet with them but left after realizing it was fake.
Russia interfered by doing fake Twitter and social media manipulation to feed gas to a fire.
Manafort and Flynn and one other guy did apparently try to leverage their positions within the trump admin with Russia.
Obama learned about Russian and Chinese interference and secretly briefed both parties. He said he was conflicted on telling the public because he didn’t want to interfere or have the appearance of interfering bc the Russian propaganda was to help trump and he didn’t want to seem like the POTUS office was making political attacks on a candidate. If you have a problem with how Obama handled things, I would suggest your bias is clouding your opinion. He briefed both parties but tried to keep it out of public discussion.
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Why are we talking about this? This is just a distraction tactic to take discussion away from what trump has done recently. Much like a tucker Carlson brining up past BLM stuff when people are talking current MAGA storming the capitol.
Anyways ... trump is gone in the 20th. Dems have control as fas as a Manchin or Romney or Mutkowski will let them.
I’m going to enjoy a nice boring sleepy joe presidency. Replace a few Supreme Court justices, take a look at fixing some portions of the tax code that trump used to attack blue states, just normal American politics stuff. The AOCs and Cruz of the world can huff and puff all they want but it’s centrist time!
I hope you are right about centrist time. There is so much the government can do that could have support but they spend their time bickering about the controversial and in turn the media bickers and we bicker and the politicians feed off the bickering so they bicker some more and the media up plays the bickering more and the country divides and bickers more
We see it on here all the time. A few threads have tried to go for the common ground, they get minimal attention, the bicker threads get maximum attention.
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SunnySide
01-09-2021, 10:51 AM
I hope so to. I imagine the social stuff never goes away. We are just one random police shooting in some random town away from picking the scab and start the bleeding all over again. Will it be tomorrow or next month? Maybe we go 3 months but certainly not a whole year without a Breonna Taylor sequel.
But legislation? Actual politics and not social identity politics? I’m hoping it’s just normal stuff. Sure we will rejoin the Paris accord, mutually reduce the tariffs with China, etc but we won’t pack the Supreme Court or make it open borders etc.
Just wish the AOCs and Gaetz of the world could stop amplifying the polar social distortion.
CRedskinsRule
01-09-2021, 11:57 AM
Social Distortion is a great term!
Giantone
01-09-2021, 12:26 PM
Trump did not collide with Russia.
OUCH!!!:laughing-
NC_Skins
01-09-2021, 03:31 PM
I hope you are right about centrist time.
It's absolutely the time of centrist. It's a 50/50 split in the senate and you aren't going to pass any Democratic legislation that's ultra progress with needing Manchin, Sinema and Kelly's vote. They aren't going to vote to get rid of the filibuster either so yeah. Dems will need to win another 3-4 seats in 2022 if they want to do some real things they want.
CRedskinsRule
01-09-2021, 03:41 PM
It's absolutely the time of centrist. It's a 50/50 split in the senate and you aren't going to pass any Democratic legislation that's ultra progress with needing Manchin, Sinema and Kelly's vote. They aren't going to vote to get rid of the filibuster either so yeah. Dems will need to win another 3-4 seats in 2022 if they want to do some real things they want.Well if it is really the time of the centrist maybe the middle group can split from rep and dem parties and start a 3rd bloc
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mooby
01-09-2021, 04:29 PM
Well if it is really the time of the centrist maybe the middle group can split from rep and dem parties and start a 3rd bloc
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A boy can dream.
Also think they should go to ranked choice voting instead of our current setup.
mooby
01-10-2021, 11:29 AM
This video (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) is very hard to tell, but using this photo (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErUxT78XEAEsCS5?format=jpg&name=medium) we can line up the moment where Officer Sicknick is dragged into the crowd and beaten, eventually causing his death. If you line up the people in the first 20ish seconds of the video with the picture, you can see where they dragged Officer Sicknick down the stairs. His death lies at the hands of those responsible for inciting this coup. RIP.
Giantone
01-10-2021, 12:10 PM
https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240