Haskins released

JC was way better than Haskins and Ramsey tho

So Snyder let Gibbs pick Campbell over his and Cerrato’s opinion? I stand corrected. Gibbs realized too late that Snyder’s meddling in the personnel decisions made it impossible to win.

RG3 lasted longer than he should have because of Snyder. Then once they committed to Cousins they kept low balling him. Jeff George was a complete disaster - he was a real gun slinger and his team mates hated him. McNabb was another in a long series of “past-their-prime” FA players that Snyder gravitated toward in his FA decisions. Deon Sanders and others were in that group - guys that were Pro Bowlers 6-8 years BEFORE Snyder signed them. Snyder and Cerrato traded their draft picks away like they were candy. Most teams won’t trade a draft pick away unless it’s late, late in the draft. That’s why Rivera wouldn’t even talk to Snyder until he had a contract promise to have FULL Control of the personnel decisions.

We should do a comprehensive list of all of Snyder’s draft and FA disasters. But only when he’s on the way OUT.


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Gibbs picked the QB's once he got here. He traded for Brunell in 04 and drafted Campbell in 05. He never liked Ramsey and he was gone after 04 or 05. Ramsey was Dan and Vinny's guy. Todd Collins came in once Al Saunders was hired as oc in 2006. Had Gibbs stayed on I believe he would have gone w/ Collins over Campbell.

If RR had any interest in Newton he'd have had him here instead of Allen. He played on a small contract in NE, and would have done so here. And having seen him this year, I'd be even more surprised if RR showed any interest now.

I'd consider Fitz if a) AS retires and b) we go with a development (Cousins like) prospect in the lower rounds. If Dallas really let Prescott walk, I'd see what he can do (no guarantee he can play 100% after that ankle injury), and if that happened he'd love to stick it to the Cowboys.
Allen was a cheap backup, Newton would have been a competitor for starting. I think the situation here was so messed up, RR knew better than to throw Cam in as well. It's a new ballgame now. But Cam's time in NE isn't helping his cause.

Nice breakdown of Heinecken's game yesterday

https://youtu.be/Z2zg8UCe5B8

Remember when we thought Haskins and Guice were the future... That was just last yr lmao

2020 an epochal year for the world, and the Washington Football Team.

The release of Haskins frees Rivera to either draft for a franchise QB and/or pick up a very good QB in FA.

I just don’t see Rivera going with the FA route. He already has Alex Smith as the bridge to starting the franchise QB draft pick . Alex mentors the new QB and maybe even starts a few games next season.

The NFL QB situation has changed. QB need to be able to run - gaining 50-100 yards a game with runs, and another 200-300 yds with passing. The QB running ability is putting defenses on their heals. Better to get a rookie who has the running AND passing ability - who can be coached up and mentored by Alex Smith. Smith is a decent passer but his running ability is near zero now.

If Rivera views his future as 5-10 years as HC here, why go for a FA QB who might only last a couple years? Draft the franchise QB and use FA to fill obvious holes on the team.


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Nice breakdown of Heinecken's game yesterday

https://youtu.be/Z2zg8UCe5B8

What a good review. Loved the multiple angles, and commentary.

The release of Haskins frees Rivera to either draft for a franchise QB and/or pick up a very good QB in FA.

I just don’t see Rivera going with the FA route. He already has Alex Smith as the bridge to starting the franchise QB draft pick . Alex mentors the new QB and maybe even starts a few games next season.

The NFL QB situation has changed. QB need to be able to run - gaining 50-100 yards a game with runs, and another 200-300 yds with passing. The QB running ability is putting defenses on their heals. Better to get a rookie who has the running AND passing ability - who can be coached up and mentored by Alex Smith. Smith is a decent passer but his running ability is near zero now.

If Rivera views his future as 5-10 years as HC here, why go for a FA QB who might only last a couple years? Draft the franchise QB and use FA to fill obvious holes on the team.


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Agreed but what if we do win the division, and maybe even a playoff game? Are we really likely to get a franchise QB in the bottom half of round 1? Do we get forced into trading up and giving up capital for other holes, or (imho) take BPA and hope a good QB development prospect falls to us in rd 2 or 3? I'd still keep the possibility of an FA QB on the table at least until we see what the draft allows us to pick up.

Jeff George and Mark Brunell were my absolute favorite QB's here when I was a kid.

Brunell was hurt most of 2004, his elbow wasn't 100% recovered, and he got a horrible calf injury that limited him in most games. He played much better in 2005, but I think he was a scapegoat in 2006 for how horrible the offense was.

I was a Jeff George fan because one of my best friends in middle school was a raiders fan, he was constantly gushing about how great Jeff George was and how he could throw the longest passes. We were so excited when George became a Redskin player. I just think that the offense didn't suit George. To this day he has the most amazing arm of anyone I have ever watched. Only guy who I think had a bigger arm was Jamarcus. There is a video of George out there from about 10 years ago doing a public workout. He was 43 but still had an absolute rifle for an arm....

Jeff George and Mark Brunell were my absolute favorite QB's here when I was a kid.

Brunell was hurt most of 2004, his elbow wasn't 100% recovered, and he got a horrible calf injury that limited him in most games. He played much better in 2005, but I think he was a scapegoat in 2006 for how horrible the offense was.

I was a Jeff George fan because one of my best friends in middle school was a raiders fan, he was constantly gushing about how great Jeff George was and how he could throw the longest passes. We were so excited when George became a Redskin player. I just think that the offense didn't suit George. To this day he has the most amazing arm of anyone I have ever watched. Only guy who I think had a bigger arm was Jamarcus. There is a video of George out there from about 10 years ago doing a public workout. He was 43 but still had an absolute rifle for an arm....

Feel bad for you my man if George was a childhood favorite. I get the arm thing but he had a personality of a wet mop and once famously said that leadership was overrated from the QB position.

Doesn't this situation sound familiar? A new coach handcuffed by the owner's dumb move at QB? (http://www.espn.com/chrismortensen/s/2001/0926/1255617.html)