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CRedskinsRule 01-13-2021, 02:15 PM I have 2 questions. If the WFT and RR want to promote KS would they still have to do interviews to satisfy the Rooney Rule? Also if they bring in an outside person didnt we see something about getting draft picks for that action?
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Chief X_Phackter 01-13-2021, 02:20 PM I have 2 questions. If the WFT and RR want to promote KS would they still have to do interviews to satisfy the Rooney Rule? Also if they bring in an outside person didnt we see something about getting draft picks for that action?
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I think the draft pick(s) go to the team losing the minority coach or GM.
SunnySide 01-13-2021, 02:23 PM 1. Under the expanded Rooney Rule, clubs will also be required to interview at least one minority candidate for coordinator positions and at least one external minority candidate for the senior football operations or general manager position.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-football-nfl-diversity/nfl-expands-rooney-rule-to-boost-diversity-idUSKBN22V34X
^^ it seems we have to interview at least one outside org minority candidate
2. Teams that lose a minority coach or executive to a head coach or general manager job with another team will receive a third-round compensatory pick for two consecutive years, per Pelissero. If a team loses a minority coach and an executive to HC and GM roles, that club will receive a third-round compensatory pick for three consecutive years.
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-pass-resolution-rewarding-teams-for-developing-minority-coaches-execs
^^ Seems the team who developed (refused to promote) and then lost a minority staff member gets the picks, not the hiring team
sevier2 01-13-2021, 03:16 PM It wouldn't be a major blow if he moved on and thrived elsewhere, if they were able to assemble a team here that also thrived.
Good point. I guess it's not so much Smith we're worried about losing, it's the recent success in the draft/free agency.
If they can replace Smith with somebody as good or better, great! I'd just hate to lose a proven talent evaluator and be left with another BA or Vinny. Which is why I'd like to see him retained along with the new hire.
But what do I know!? :D
Chief X_Phackter 01-13-2021, 04:11 PM Good point. I guess it's not so much Smith we're worried about losing, it's the recent success in the draft/free agency.
If they can replace Smith with somebody as good or better, great! I'd just hate to lose a proven talent evaluator and be left with another BA or Vinny. Which is why I'd like to see him retained along with the new hire.
But what do I know!? :D
Yeah, I get it.
I'm not so sure the success that everybody seems to be attributing to Kyle (although I haven't seen anything that shows he's solely responsible for any of the drafts) can't be duplicated by someone else, perhaps with more experience, whom they have their eyes on. I think people are largely comparing Kyle, and his purported draft success, to previous Redskins drafts, rather than what someone else outside of the organization might be capable of.
SFREDSKIN 01-13-2021, 04:52 PM Yeah, I get it.
I'm not so sure the success that everybody seems to be attributing to Kyle (although I haven't seen anything that shows he's solely responsible for any of the drafts) can't be duplicated by someone else, perhaps with more experience, whom they have their eyes on. I think people are largely comparing Kyle, and his purported draft success, to previous Redskins drafts, rather than what someone else outside of the organization might be capable of.
Look at the number players drafted and signed in FA by Smith that are currently on the roster vs players acquired by Allen and McCloughan, this will tell you his hand print on the team. One negative thing about Smith has been his 4th rounders, Apke sucks, the jury is on Martin, AGG, Charles, Love, etc.
Chief X_Phackter 01-13-2021, 04:58 PM Look at the number players drafted and signed in FA by Smith that are currently on the roster vs players acquired by Allen and McCloughan, this will tell you his hand print on the team. One negative thing about Smith has been his 4th rounders, Apke sucks, the jury is on Martin, AGG, Charles, Love, etc.
Yeah, that's my point. Kyle's purported recent success is largely being compared on here to past Redskins regimes and their lack of great success, rather than to other GM candidates around the league and their experience / bodies of work.
AnonEmouse 01-13-2021, 05:14 PM Worth considering that they are interviewing external guys for GM because they have to and Smith is going to be one of those candidates when they actually do the interviews?
This sort of reminds me of when the mighty Eric Schaffer left and all the consternation over that. Somehow we survived.
SFREDSKIN 01-13-2021, 05:25 PM This sort of reminds me of when the mighty Eric Schaffer left and all the consternation over that. Somehow we survived.
Totally different animal, capologist vs talent acquisition. Sure bring in Hurney or others without Smith (if he leaves) that will be your tell tale sign.
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