What happens with Kyle Smith?

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MissouriSkin
01-13-2021, 08:37 AM
Facebook fact checkers deem this only half true as other people have had bad drafts too.

Agreed. I’m just surprised (although I shouldn’t be) that after being on the Ron train, people are turning on him in one day because he might have a different front office structure then they want.....even though they have no idea what his actual plan is. I mean it’s not like Ron has forgotten more football than any of us will ever know or anything.....

Chico23231
01-13-2021, 09:09 AM
Facebook fact checkers deem this only half true as other people have had bad drafts too.

Lol...great signature

MTK
01-13-2021, 10:04 AM
Smith has zero GM experience and is also a pretty young guy, it's probably pretty rare for someone in his situation to shoot straight up the ladder to GM. Perhaps the plan is to bring in someone more established and have Smith be the assistant GM in addition to his current personnel duties. I guess I'll worry about this when there's something to be worried about. I trust Ron in this process. In the end he has to have people in place he knows he can work with. All this hand wringing over Smith seems a little over the top.

Chief X_Phackter
01-13-2021, 10:21 AM
Smith has zero GM experience and is also a pretty young guy, it's probably pretty rare for someone in his situation to shoot straight up the ladder to GM. Perhaps the plan is to bring in someone more established and have Smith be the assistant GM in addition to his current personnel duties. I guess I'll worry about this when there's something to be worried about. I trust Ron in this process. In the end he has to have people in place he knows he can work with. All this hand wringing over Smith seems a little over the top.

EXACTLY!

WFT won the division, ended their season with a close loss in the playoffs, and now the sky is falling...And no one on here actually knows what the front office plan is.

Typical.

Chico23231
01-13-2021, 10:31 AM
Hopefully the GM choice will not chase Kyle away. I don’t know if a choice of GM that scares folks, but losing Kyle as a result. We can see the tangible results of Kyle and understand the contribution to winning.

And then we can see the tangible result of Martin Mayhew help destroy an organization like Detroit. It’s okay not to want that here. He would be an awful choice.

I’d like to go with the guy from Tennessee.

Chief X_Phackter
01-13-2021, 10:38 AM
Yeah, no one wants someone to come in and destroy the organization. It's all a little premature head-banging though if you ask me.

skinsfanmdc
01-13-2021, 11:01 AM
Hopefully the GM choice will not chase Kyle away. I don’t know if a choice of GM that scares folks, but losing Kyle as a result. We can see the tangible results of Kyle and understand the contribution to winning.

And then we can see the tangible result of Martin Mayhew help destroy an organization like Detroit. It’s okay not to want that here. He would be an awful choice.

I’d like to go with the guy from Tennessee.
That's who I want instead of some of these old school guys who were fired for a reason.

SunnySide
01-13-2021, 11:28 AM
1 2 Chase Young DE Ohio State
3 66 Antonio Gibson RB Memphis
4 108 Saahdiq Charles T LSU
142 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty compensatory pick
5 156 Keith Ismael C San Diego State from San Francisco
162 Khaleke Hudson LB Michigan from Seattle
7 216 Kamren Curl SS Arkansas
229 James Smith-Williams DL NC State from Denver


1 15 Dwayne Haskins QB Ohio State
1 26 Montez Sweat OLB Mississippi State
3 76 Terry McLaurin WR Ohio State
4 112 Bryce Love RB Stanford
4 131 Wes Martin G Indiana
5 153 Ross Pierschbacher C Alabama
5 173 Cole Holcomb LB North Carolina
6 206 Kelvin Harmon WR NC State
7 227 Jimmy Moreland CB James Madison
7 253 Jordan Brailford OLB Oklahoma State


1 13 Daron Payne NT Alabama
2 59 Derrius Guice RB LSU From San Francisco
3 74 Geron Christian OT Louisville From San Francisco
4 109 Troy Apke S Penn State From Denver
5 163 Tim Settle NT Virginia Tech From Denver
6 197 Shaun Dion Hamilton LB Alabama From LA Rams
7 241 Greg Stroman CB Virginia Tech From LA Rams
256 Trey Quinn WR SMU From LA Rams

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McLaurin and Settle were great finds. Although we need to see more of Settle to really judge but hes been very good for his snaps.

Drafting of Chase Young and Jonathan Allen seemed like no brainers, I dont give any credit there. Was hoping for Derwin James over Payne.

But theres been some duds in mid rounds "where GMs prove their worth".

I think this years surprise success came more form FA signings vs draft picks but they all play a part. I dont know how much Kyle Smith scouting went into the pro scouting as that was Santos job title.

bottom line - I like Kyle Smith and this fan would make him GM, have heard people say hes sharp. We will see.

AnonEmouse
01-13-2021, 11:52 AM
I'd have put Moreland in bold too. For a 7th rounder to hold down the 3rd/4th CB spot is a pretty good find and I think he'll get better in this defense too.

Chief X_Phackter
01-13-2021, 12:06 PM
Yeah, not counting 1st picks in the 1st round, here's my assessment of the last three drafts.

2018 - it was not good outside of Settle, period.

Jury's still out on the 2019/2020 drafts in my opinion.

2019 - Pierschbacher and Brailford are no longer on the team. Harmon and Love have been injured. Martin sucks. Moreland, Sweat, Holcomb, and McLaurin have all been solid contributors.

2020 - Trey Quinn, Derrius Guice, and Shaun Dion Hamilton are no longer on the team. Apke, Christian, and Stroman have not been very good. Curl has been great. Gibson was coming on until that turf toe. Smith-Williams is likely the Kerrigan replacement. Can't call it yet for AGG, Ismael, Hudson, and Charles.

They've picked some very nice players, and some that still need to show what they can offer. I wouldn't exactly say they've hit it out of the ballpark by any means. 7-8 players that have shown to be solid contributors in three drafts (outside the 1st picks in the 1st rounds).

That's somewhere in the area of 30-35%...

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