The Too Soon 2021 NFL Draft Thread


SkinzWin
02-23-2021, 06:45 PM
19: R1 P19 OT Christian Darrisaw - Virginia Tech
51: R2 P19 QB Mac Jones - Alabama
74: R3 P10 WR Amon-Ra St. Brown - USC
82: R3 P18 S Paris Ford - Pittsburgh
124: R4 P19 CB Robert Rochell - Central Arkansas
164: R5 P19 LB Charles Snowden - UVA
243: R7 P17 TE Quintin Morris - Bowling Green
245: R7 P19 G Brenden Jaimes - Nebraska

Darrisaw or JOK in the first round is my vote. If Jones somehow fell into the bottom of the first round (don’t think this will happen realistically) how would you feel about trading back up into the 1st round to get him. Our 2nd and a late round pick may do it. Is that considered a value pick? Maybe not, but it’s definitely intriguing. Just like QBs are over drafted every year, there are always reached and players they fall unexpectedly in the draft every year.

Pervis_Griffith
02-23-2021, 09:10 PM
Darrisaw or JOK in the first round is my vote. If Jones somehow fell into the bottom of the first round (don’t think this will happen realistically) how would you feel about trading back up into the 1st round to get him. Our 2nd and a late round pick may do it. Is that considered a value pick? Maybe not, but it’s definitely intriguing. Just like QBs are over drafted every year, there are always reached and players they fall unexpectedly in the draft every year.


Honestly? If Mac Jones was around at 19 in the first round, I would almost prefer trading back so the Saints or somebody could draft him at 19 ... which I think would happen. I mean, I just don't see him falling to the second round at all.

Get a later first, and another second ...

SkinzWin
02-23-2021, 09:49 PM
Honestly? If Mac Jones was around at 19 in the first round, I would almost prefer trading back so the Saints or somebody could draft him at 19 ... which I think would happen. I mean, I just don't see him falling to the second round at all.

Get a later first, and another second ...

With that plan you have to get someone in FA though. I agree there zero chance he falls to the second, and unlikely he falls even to 19, or lower in the 1st, but I just thought it was an interesting scenario. Something crazy like that always happens every year during the draft.

Scalper
02-23-2021, 11:35 PM
I agree, LB is harder to find than WR.

If you are talking what is economical, MLBs can be had cheap in FA, while outside that can pass cover, even if not edge rushers, cost a bit more. This FA loaded with WRs, but you pay through teeth for them.

It is interesting to ask what FA does. We swung for fences for huge name WR last year FA, but most other signings were judicious and budget friendly. You could make a credible argument that the case history shows we'll sign a big name stud WR, and also that with so many WRs we might find a second tier FA that is still very good and try and get him for 30% or 40% of price of one of the huge names.

I don't love Darrishaw at OT. He seems more a plodding run blocker than a super athletic pass rusher. I think you aim for latter, as with Williams. You can teach a pass blocker to run block, but vice versa can be much more challenging. The question becomes does staff think S. Charles is still a truly viable franchise LT? If I'm not going QB with 1st round pick, I'm still looking to plug one of the other high-leverage positions, LT,WR,CB. I would not be surprised to see us go corner though. I think FS is also an immense long-term need. If there is a FS with true CB skills and 4.4 speed, sitting at #19, that fills an IMMENSE long term need, and you can resign FSs for less than WR or CBs cost.

AnonEmouse
02-24-2021, 10:29 AM
I'd almost suggest if Mac Jones was there at #19 then we trade back for more picks and go after someone like Mond in the 4th or maybe even 3rd round. To me the likes of Jones and Trask don't fit the mould of what we need/the NFL wants and we risk reaching if we take Jones at #19 or even think of trading up.

I'd take BPA and risk waiting another year to find our rookie QB, if we don't find a diamond lower down. Let the other teams scramble around with trades etc. to get 'their guy', while we build a team for a 3-4 year run, not all or nothing now. They'll use up picks on busts more like as not, while we get a draft full of prospects hopefully.

Chief X_Phackter
02-24-2021, 11:32 AM
I'd almost suggest if Mac Jones was there at #19 then we trade back for more picks and go after someone like Mond in the 4th or maybe even 3rd round. To me the likes of Jones and Trask don't fit the mould of what we need/the NFL wants and we risk reaching if we take Jones at #19 or even think of trading up.

I'd take BPA and risk waiting another year to find our rookie QB, if we don't find a diamond lower down. Let the other teams scramble around with trades etc. to get 'their guy', while we build a team for a 3-4 year run, not all or nothing now. They'll use up picks on busts more like as not, while we get a draft full of prospects hopefully.

It's not likely that scenario will play out. If a team drafting after WFT really wants Mac Jones (Chicago, Pittsburgh, New Orleans), they will probably move up to get him before WFT has a chance to draft him. If Jones is there at #18, that is when the trade will occur - with Miami.

I am a fan of drafting a guy like Mond or Newman in round 4 or 5 though, if they like one of those guys.

Pervis_Griffith
02-24-2021, 12:25 PM
With that plan you have to get someone in FA though. I agree there zero chance he falls to the second, and unlikely he falls even to 19, or lower in the 1st, but I just thought it was an interesting scenario. Something crazy like that always happens every year during the draft.


Yeah .. that's true. I shoulda stipulated that. I guess I assume that will happen.


I like Jones, and hell, he could become a bad ass. And if we have a chance at him, and pass, and he blows up, well ... that'll suck.

But I think adding a second round pick would allow us to do something like OT first round, S second round, LB second round ... with two 3rd round picks to grab WR, and BPA ..... setting us up nicely for the future.

skinsfaninok
02-24-2021, 12:54 PM
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/mac-jones-2021-nfl-draft-alabama-journey-senior-bowl

I like this kid

Pervis_Griffith
02-24-2021, 03:55 PM
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/mac-jones-2021-nfl-draft-alabama-journey-senior-bowl

I like this kid


His accuracy numbers are astounding. He could easily become a great one.

Or .... maybe not ...


It's def tricky!

VTSkins1961
02-24-2021, 07:32 PM
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/mac-jones-2021-nfl-draft-alabama-journey-senior-bowl

I like this kid

If he is there at 19 I''d take him. I might even trade up to get him. a pick and a player - it would really depend on how far we would have to trade up....

Another Option a need position and Trask in the 2nd round

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