Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020

I don't think any Dem wants to answer the move about packing the court because there's no strategy on the issue yet. I think they will consider it if SCOTUS starts ignoring all precedent and goes heavy conservative on every issue, but if they respect established precedent on issues they personally disagree with (abortion comes to mind) then they would have a hard time getting support to pack the court.

Biden responded to that a while back, said he isn't a fan of that.

If this happens, a fuckin dick move by a first class dick

Trump plans to outshine Biden on Inauguration Day with opposing rally: rep (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-inauguration-day-rally)ort

*When this happens, ...*

This is true and definetly of trump supporters.


https://news.yahoo.com/white-male-conservatives-think-america-095941778.html


Conservatives have officially become a sad group of angry, bitter, whining, radicalized, and mostly white men, who fear being made irrelevant by the inevitable demographic changes of America’s 21st century and as such now call themselves, wait for it, “victims.”

At his campaign rally in Georgia this weekend, President Trump assured his maskless followers, “We’re all victims. Everybody here, all these thousands of people here tonight, they’re all victims. Every one of you.”

What a stunning declaration of powerlessness, one that prompts the question: victims of who and what, Mr. President? I’m so glad you asked.

They are victims of the younger, more diverse America that rejected Trump and voted for Joe Biden. They are victims of their own white male aggrievement and resentment. Yes, Trump increased his vote share among white women, but it’s men like him—older, wealthier, powerful—who are leading the way toward the politics of victimhood.

The Authoritarian Threat in This Country Isn’t Socialism

They lie, openly. They distort the truth. They claim that their heritage is being stolen from them when confederate flags and monuments are removed from public places. They rail against critical race theory, diversity and inclusion training, calls for social justice and police reform, and label it “socialism,” which they associate with every Democrat from AOC to Biden.

These folks are mad. But more than that they are foul hypocrites.

For fuck sake so over this, give it up you lost and you lost bigly

Trump says he’ll join Texas lawsuit asking Supreme Court to block 62 Biden electors from four states (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/12/09/trump-says-hell-join-texas-lawsuit-asking-supreme-court-to-block-62-biden-electors-from-four-states/)

For fuck sake so over this, give it up you lost and you lost bigly

Trump says he’ll join Texas lawsuit asking Supreme Court to block 62 Biden electors from four states (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/12/09/trump-says-hell-join-texas-lawsuit-asking-supreme-court-to-block-62-biden-electors-from-four-states/)

This was interesting ............


https://news.yahoo.com/as-safe-harbor-day-arrives-reality-sets-in-for-trump-supporters-210938590.html

”46.This guidance is contrary to Pennsylvania law. First, Pennsylvania Election Code mandates that, for non-disabled and non-military voters, all applications for an absentee or mail-in ballot “shall be signed by the applicant.”25 PA.STAT. §§3146.2(d) & 3150.12(c). Second, Pennsylvania’s voter signature verification requirements are expressly set forth at 25 PA.STAT. 350(a.3)(1)-(2) and § 3146.8(g)(3)-(7).

47.The Pennsylvania Department of State’s guidance unconstitutionally did away with Pennsylvania’s statutory signature verification requirements. Approximately70 percent of the requests for absentee ballots were from Democrats and 25 percent from Republicans. Thus, this unconstitutional abrogation of state election law greatly inured to former Vice President Biden’s benefit.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf

^^ this is the actual copy of Texas brief
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Texas or any argument about "observers being obstructed" is trivial, a state by state matter and wont convince the SCOTUS to over turn a presidential election.

What scares me though is if states changed election laws by any means other than through the State's legislature. Art ii sect 1 of the US Constitution gives each state legislature the power to set their State election laws.

Texas brief says PA law requires signature verification for mail-in ballots, citing the 2 bolded statues above.

Problem is apparently 25 PA STAT 350 requiring signature verification has been repealed.

https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/statutes-unconsolidated/title-25-ps-elections-electoral-districts/chapter-4-registration-of-voters-enrollment-of-voters/in-cities-of-the-first-class-repealed

§ 3146.8(g)(3)-(7) cited by Texas has no signature verification requirement and deals with the manner mail in ballots are received and accounted for.
https://casetext.com/statute/pennsylvania-statutes/statutes-unconsolidated/title-25-ps-elections-electoral-districts/chapter-14-election-code/article-xiii-voting-by-qualified-absentee-electors/section-31468-canvassing-of-official-absentee-ballots-and-mail-in-ballots
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I question my own (quick google) legislative findings ... surely Texas wouldnt tell the SCOTUS that PA requires signature verification (when it doesnt) and cite to a repealed PA statute as proof.

But it seems PA does not require signature verification. Neither does North Carolina or Wisconsin.
https://healthyelections.org/sites/default/files/2020-10/Signature_Verification_0.pdf

It seems Texas and others are claiming that the PA Supreme Court and not the State Legislature changed election laws when it ruled unanimously that mail-in ballots could not be tossed because of signature verification.

But thats not what happened.

The PA Supreme Court just reiterated existing PA election laws do not require signature verification. They didnt change the law. They just pointed to the fact that PA doesnt require it. Even the republican justice agreed. (In PA, judges run under political parties).

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/pennsylvania-court-ballot-signatures-431794

Now the mail in ballots received after 8 pm on election day and still counted .. that is another issue but PA was ordered to separate those and the total number would not change the PA result.

Red states attempting to overturn the presidential election in this manner should infuriate every American. This hail mary BS should not be forgotten or sweep under the rug.

Sadly but expected, conservatives over at redstate and such are acting like victims and claiming the republic as we know it will be done if the SCOTUS doesnt overturn the election ... this is like a Black Mirror episode.

I want this to be over, clearly Biden won, and we should all move forward. That said, at this time 4 years ago, liberals were screaming that electors should simply ignore the state election for the general popular vote. I remember the petitions, online and in person. I am in Md, we had no say in other votes but there were liberals in front of so many store fronts trying to get petitions for other state electors to change their vote.

In the end, as I have seen in many articles, on Jan 20th, we will have a successful peaceful transition to the next president of the US, Obama Light.

C Red you know I respect and appreciate you .. but come on man.

Some nut bag citizens standing around with petitions printed a Kinkos in 2016 does not equal 18 red state attorney generals, the office of the POTUS, Cruz et al filing/supporting lawsuits and briefs with the SCOTUS. The country has truly lost its way if we are holding 18 red state attorney generals, Trump, Cruz etc. to the same standard of conduct, integrity and behavior expectation as citizen nut jobs.

This should not be dismissed or swept under the rug as "politics as usual" or the other side would do the same thing.

This continued republican behavior is abhorrent and just more poisoning of the well we all draw water from. The 18 other red state attorney generals who joined in just really struck a chord with me.

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edit - I just really need to see some PA law that says signatures must be verified/matched. The only argument with teeth is that PA didnt follow their own election laws by not matching signatures .... but I cant find any PA law that says signatures must be matched.

I hope the SCOTUS does take the case and calls the Texas AG out for blatantly lying in their brief.

Yeah Hillary never cried foul, or refused to concede, or constantly tweeted and carried on about a rigged election. What's going on now is a joke and an insult to the entire process.

Yeah Hillary never cried foul, or refused to concede, or constantly tweeted and carried on about a rigged election. What's going on now is a joke and an insult to the entire process.The whole russian charade was the dems crying election foul. And it wasn't a few nuts with petitions. That is true revisionism.

That said, this year they are going through legal channels and they are going to lose in those same legal channels.

In the end the US System and Constitution is stronger then HC, the democratic party, DT or the republican party. But our party structure is broken on both sides.

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