mooby
11-09-2020, 01:14 PM
The problem I have with both sides, besides crushing our country with deficits/debt, is how bills get written.
A bill gets written to declare making kicking puppies illegal. But the fine print of the bill includes bullshit pet projects that have nothing to do with puppies. Then if you vote against it, its broadcasted as Mr./Ms. X hates puppies.
That's just not arguing in good faith. It's such bullshit.
Agreed. I think the rider system needs to be changed. At the least have a Senate vote if a rider wants to be attached to a bill.
punch it in
11-09-2020, 01:15 PM
I'm surprised you feel that way about it. I'm not expecting that at all. I expect the Senate Republicans to tell Mitch they expect him to stand up to anything Biden wants unless he can extract concessions from him.
For me there's no need to gloat, because we're already off to a bad start with Trump's transition team refusing to start working with Biden until Trump concedes or gets defeated in court. Every day/week/month they have to wait means a later start for when Biden can get the ball rolling.
I too endorse Biden's message of coming together because there are a lot of innocent families that really need help right now. But I don't expect anything to come easy in the next 3+ months.
Mitch actually even named a part of a bill after Bo Biden back in the day. They are friends. I have to be optimistic because the option is at least two more years of nothing getting done if the Republicans keep the senate. And I expect they will.
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mooby
11-09-2020, 08:27 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jr9xvg/lets_look_back_at_what_fox_news_was_saying_in_2018/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
It never ceases to amaze me how there is always a video of conservatives doing the same shit they accuse Dems of doing.
mooby
11-09-2020, 08:31 PM
https://i.redd.it/el9ch9hcnay51.jpg
Preach
mooby
11-09-2020, 08:47 PM
Thought this story from a Reddit user about how hard it is registering to vote in GA was a good look at the process designed to disenfranchise potential voters.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/jr7bhy/georgia_sos_refuses_to_resign_after_calls_from/gbrm9pw?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I’m just going to give you a run down of my own experience trying to register to vote in Atlanta, Ga this year.
You have to have a state issued ID which I didn’t yet have as a new resident of the state. So I hopped online and signed up for an appointment at the DMV. Appointments were booked solid for almost two months. On the website it says they are taking people by appointment only. Okay. So I sign up for a date two months later.
On the day of my appointment I have every. Single. Duck. In. A. Row. I have my original birth certificate, my social security card, two pieces of mail, the lease to my new apartment, a phone bill. I drove to Florida this summer to pick up my birth certificate from my parents’ safe. I am ready. I show up to the dmv (dds in Ga) about forty minutes early. There is only one dds office per county for some reason, and metro Atlanta (inside the perimeter) covers primarily two counties. That’s two offices for the entire population inside the Atlanta perimeter.
When I get to where the GPS sends me I find myself at a dead mall. The entire mall is closed. There’s an abandoned JCPenney’s, movie theater, the works. This place doesn’t look like the DMV. I drive around for twenty minutes trying to find an entrance. Is it inside the dead mall? Why is there no signage? I finally find a security guard who looks tired of being asked where the DMV is. He directs me to a single door down a long outdoor sort of “hallway.”
The DMV is inside and around the corner and the line for appointments is snaking around the inside of the mall. Your appointment is just a reservation for a time, the order you arrive and the time of your appointment will determine where in the line you get to stand. There are members of the DMV staff trying to patiently soothe the angry patrons who haven’t even made it in the door of the office yet.
There are easily 13 desks for service at this DMV, 3-4 of them are manned with a fifth staff member having to leave their post and manage the line. I finally get called to the desk. The process once at the desk takes ten minutes. I’m handed a temporary ID and sent on my way. All told I just waited two months for an appointment and spent about five hours physically in the DMV.
I go home and immediately try to register to vote online. At this point it is three days before the voter registration deadline so I should be totally in the clear, right? Wrong. When I finish my online registration I’m notified that my “application for registration” has been received and that it will take four weeks for my registration to be processed. I will not be registered to vote in time.
I call the Fulton county voter services number and try to get a person on the phone. I wait on hold for about an hour. When I get someone on the phone she tells me there is nothing she can do and hangs up. I call back. Wait again. I get someone nicer who tells me that they’re just a call center. They aren’t really employed by the Fulton county voter registration office. The most they can do is search voter records to see if I’m registered, which is the same thing I can do from my home computer.
So I get pissed. I weigh my options, and I realize I’m still technically on my lease in Florida. I request an absentee ballot from my last city of residence and I manage to cast my vote in the election.
This stuff is built to fail by design. Register NOW to vote in the GA runoffs. The good news is, I’m registered in GA now and will be proudly casting my vote to take back the senate in January. FUCK the racist GOP.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jr9xvg/lets_look_back_at_what_fox_news_was_saying_in_2018/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
It never ceases to amaze me how there is always a video of conservatives doing the same shit they accuse Dems of doing.
I was just about to post that, so rich, so damn rich
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mooby
11-10-2020, 08:15 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0JCC41BUflt9-GDlU42giDA0Vbhv8Sy_0dkVjth141x-ln7c6Wds1fDMI
They must've tortured this brave patriot to get him to recant his heroic allegations about voter fraud by the USPS.
Chico23231
11-10-2020, 08:46 PM
Just remember sunshine, if the shoe was on the other foot with this garbage mail in ballots...Biden would be doing the same thing with lawsuits.
Most understood this is what was gonna happen, unless u were dumb enough to think Biden was gonna win in a landslide. Amazingly gop gained sufficient seats in the house
Giantone
11-10-2020, 09:07 PM
Just remember sunshine, if the shoe was on the other foot with this garbage mail in ballots...Biden would be doing the same thing with lawsuits.
Most understood this is what was gonna happen, unless u were dumb enough to think Biden was gonna win in a landslide. Amazingly gop gained sufficient seats in the house
You do realize more people voted for the Biden ticket then any other Presidential candidate in history and he won both the EC and popular vote. Stop whining chico.
76,993,831! 4,940,083 more than trump . Do the math and stop the crying.
mooby
11-10-2020, 09:12 PM
Just remember sunshine, if the shoe was on the other foot with this garbage mail in ballots...Biden would be doing the same thing with lawsuits.
Most understood this is what was gonna happen, unless u were dumb enough to think Biden was gonna win in a landslide. Amazingly gop gained sufficient seats in the house
25 million mail-in ballots were processed in 2016, but yeah this time around it was widespread voter fraud.
And somehow the Dems can't even commit fraud good enough to take back the Senate and increase their House lead even with the votes on the same fucking paper as the POTUS election!