SunnySide
11-04-2020, 07:57 AM
After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.
I voted libertarian in 2012.
What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.
The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.
Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.
I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.
More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.
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Preach CRED. Gesus, what you wrote is a beautiful manifesto for the middle America. Seriously you wrote out in words and thoughts I couldn’t and wish I could articulate ... but I disagree with Obama hollow part lol
I’m too tired to answer the call of your question and try and identify specifics of common ground right now
Well said
I voted libertarian in 2012.
What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.
The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.
Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.
I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.
More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.
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Preach CRED. Gesus, what you wrote is a beautiful manifesto for the middle America. Seriously you wrote out in words and thoughts I couldn’t and wish I could articulate ... but I disagree with Obama hollow part lol
I’m too tired to answer the call of your question and try and identify specifics of common ground right now
Well said