Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020


SunnySide
11-04-2020, 07:57 AM
After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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Preach CRED. Gesus, what you wrote is a beautiful manifesto for the middle America. Seriously you wrote out in words and thoughts I couldn’t and wish I could articulate ... but I disagree with Obama hollow part lol

I’m too tired to answer the call of your question and try and identify specifics of common ground right now

Well said

SunnySide
11-04-2020, 08:00 AM
Michigan is sooooo close to flipping to Biden

mooby
11-04-2020, 08:07 AM
2024 is Nikki Haley...she will win too.


BLM the organization is trash Mooby. You can read their charter and it has Marxist roots. You don’t think that’s radical? Do you think rioting, violence looting is acceptable? Do you think them not disavowing the violence and working with group who promote confrontation is not radical?

Do you know what radical means?

Can you link me to their national charter?

I'm just going off Wikipedia, which sources their statements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter#:~:text=In%202013%2C%20Patrisse %20Cullors%2C%20Alicia,set%20of%20principles%20and %20goals.


The originators of the hashtag and call to action, Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi, expanded their project into a national network of over 30 local chapters between 2014 and 2016.[11 (https://medium.com/@patrissemariecullorsbrignac/we-didn-t-start-a-movement-we-started-a-network-90f9b5717668#.l0oku76m3)] The overall Black Lives Matter movement is a decentralized network of activists with no formal hierarchy.[12 (https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-really-runs-blacklivesmatter)]

SunnySide
11-04-2020, 08:09 AM
Only 64% of the vote counted in Pennsylvania with remaining votes being mail in .... Pennsylvania is heavily play for Biden as well

Feeling better today than I did last night

mooby
11-04-2020, 08:20 AM
Only 64% of the vote counted in Pennsylvania with remaining votes being mail in .... Pennsylvania is heavily play for Biden as well

Feeling better today than I did last night

MSN/AP has Trump ahead by 700k in PA, I'm really not sure if it's possible to come back from that much.

Edit: MSN/AP has 75% counted in PA, with 5.3 mil counted so far, which means roughly 1.3 mil left to count. So yeah Biden could flip PA but it would have to mean a heavy majority of ballots left would have to favor him.

SunnySide
11-04-2020, 08:22 AM
MSN/AP has Trump ahead by 700k in PA, I'm really not sure if it's possible to come back from that much.

There may be up to 1.9 million mail in ballots in Pa and Biden is winning that more than 2-1. Besides he doesn’t need pennsylvania.

Detroit has a ton of votes to count yet.

Things are looking good

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Wisconsin scares me Biden only up by 21k

MTK
11-04-2020, 09:21 AM
@Nate_Cohn is a good follow on Twitter right now

It's really quite simple. Biden's winning absentee ballots 78-21. The PA SOS says there are 1.4 million ballots left to count. If that's true, then Biden will net-800k votes, more than enough to over take the president

Based on my replies, I don't think people have fully internalized how Democratic these mail and absentee ballots will be in MI/PA/WI. It's going to be close, but these ballots will be overwhelmingly Democratic

Biden has taken the lead in Michigan, according to the AP
Along with AZ, NV and WI, he now leads in states worth 270 electoral votes--the number needed to win

mredskins
11-04-2020, 09:24 AM
@Nate_Cohn is a good follow on Twitter right now

It's really quite simple. Biden's winning absentee ballots 78-21. The PA SOS says there are 1.4 million ballots left to count. If that's true, then Biden will net-800k votes, more than enough to over take the president

Based on my replies, I don't think people have fully internalized how Democratic these mail and absentee ballots will be in MI/PA/WI. It's going to be close, but these ballots will be overwhelmingly Democratic

Biden has taken the lead in Michigan, according to the AP
Along with AZ, NV and WI, he now leads in states worth 270 electoral votes--the number needed to win

I literally can't take 4 more years of this fawking clown, LETS GO BIDEN!!!!

SunnySide
11-04-2020, 09:30 AM
I feel like we are just speeding up to a red light. Biden speeds towards a presidency only to be stuck at a red light for 4 years.

mooby
11-04-2020, 09:45 AM
I feel like we are just speeding up to a red light. Biden speeds towards a presidency only to be stuck at a red light for 4 years.

Logically I shouldn't have a reason to be concerned, but I do worry that Trump's efforts to invalidate the remaining ballots that haven't been counted will actually work and this will go to a SCOTUS that will rule in his favor.

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