1st Presidential Debate Thread

Not Joe's best night for sure. For all of the talk from him about how he knew how to handle a bully, he sure didn't show it last night.

Joe's only responses were "Oh, Come on", or putting his head down and closing his eyes. He would occasionally interject "Can you shut up".

We knew Trump was going to be Trump, and he behaved exactly as expected. Let's be clear, even with Chris Wallace being biased to Biden, he still did a terrible job. Chris Wallace sucks.

I am a Biden supporter, but last night he looked old and weak. He also blatantly lied about two things that i am personally aware of, that he did not want to shut down the USA again (100% completely and totally false, he already has talked about a plan of how / what he will shut down once he is inaugurated), and he lied big time when he said that he never objected to Trump shutting down incoming travel from China. I expect Trump to lie, but i was kind of taken aback that Biden had no issue lying. Again, they are politicians so they have to lie, but still.

One thing that concerns me, is Biden did very little to call out the violent protestors and terrorists that are burning the cities. My buddy told me afterward, that he could not do that, because if he did he would alienate a lot of his voters who are pro-anarchy / carnage, etc...

IF there is a second debate between the two, we need a more pro-Biden moderator, so that Biden gets more of a chance. I still to this day do not know why they don't just cut the microphones on someone so that they cannot interrupt, or when it is not their time to speak.

That was the impression I took away from your post, thanks for confirming. Glad to have another member on Team Biden.

The thing I was most impressed with? How young and not senile and concise with his words Biden was.

He failed to condemn white supremacy.

He missed an open court layup.

All Joe had to do after that was stay awake.


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This really can't be stated enough.

Wallace served him the easiest basket he'd ever make. All he had to do was say "I denounce racism, white supremacy, and any group which uses me or my words to incite violence in any form."

But much in the same way he was shit-talking Biden for losing the radicals on the law-and-order platform, he can't say it because he would lose the white supremacist vote if he denounced them. So he does the opposite, literally tells them to stand by, which they take as a complete endorsement (https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/proud-boys-celebrate-after-trump-s-debate-call-out-n1241512). Way to fucking go bigly.

Some do and more important 200 Retired Generals and Admirals and over 300 People from different Security Agencies all signed a letter of support for Biden. trump has none.


Trump is such a lying sack of shit. This is number 72,067.
Since yesterday.


https://apple.news/ABvxf1hYJT3OhJlU2zpr62A

No you are right he did do a good job explaining that renewable energy is a job creator but he missed an opportunity when addressing nonrenewables. To me a debate should be about expanding the vote. He stated under his administration no new coal or oil fired power plants will be created, which is fine but he should have continued that nonrenewables are too valuable to waste on single use production such as energy. We have other resources we can use for electrical and transportation for that matter and we need those resources for more long term production such as manufacturing. Coal can be used in photovoltaic cells, petroleum has obvious uses outside of energy.



Baltimore man you and I both know that he wasn’t getting all that out .... two minutes - loudmouth interjecting = 4 seconds.
You are obviously very passionate and knowledgeable about the environment which is awesome, and I agree that is all information that he should relay to his voters but there is no way in hell that was happening last night. Lol.

I don't know who the proud boys are, and I'm glad for that, but that is the worst name ever for a group. WTF?



It is terrible. Lol. Washington football team is better. Well it is less stupid.

Debates are a waste of time as long as Trump is involved. Just give them both a half hour spot in prime time to explain their platforms. Over and done.


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I have to add in , on the spot fact checking! With trump it's a must!

Blaming Trump 100% for leftist groups such as Antifa burning down streets and rioting is disingenuous. It's just not reasonable. There is a difference between criticism and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling at Trump clouds.

https://news.yahoo.com/proud-boys-arrest-trump-stand-by-175248423.html


Proud Boys Member Arrested On Assault Charges After Trump Told Hate Group: 'Stand By'


A prominent member of the Proud Boys was arrested Wednesday in Portland, Oregon — less than a day after President Donald Trump publicly threw his support behind the hate group.

Alan James Swinney, 50, faces numerous charges, including felony assault and unlawful use of a weapon.

Video and photos show Swinney pointing a gun at protesters with his finger on the trigger during an Aug. 22 clash in Portland between far-right extremists and anti-fascist protesters. At the time, police did nothing.

But now, Swinney is being held in the Multnomah County Jail on six felony charges, including assault in the second degree and unlawful use of a weapon.

Though it wasn’t immediately clear if the arrest was connected to the Aug. 22 incident, Swinney also faces six misdemeanor charges including pointing a firearm at another person. The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office did not immediately return a request for comment.



During the first presidential debate between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden on Tuesday night, Trump refused to condemn white supremacy and instead specifically endorsed the violent gang.

“Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” Trump said.

Almost immediately, Proud Boys members began celebrating Trump’s apparent approval of their violent methods.

“Trump basically said to go fuck them up,” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys, said in a chat on the right-wing social media app Parler. “This makes me so happy.”

Swinney felt comfortable addressing his violent tactics in leaked chats provided to HuffPost in 2019.

“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” Swinney said in one of the chats. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough to crush them at some point.”

Almost immediately, Proud Boys members began celebrating Trump’s apparent approval of their violent methods.

“Trump basically said to go fuck them up,” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys, said in a chat on the right-wing social media app Parler. “This makes me so happy.”

Swinney felt comfortable addressing his violent tactics in leaked chats provided to HuffPost in 2019.

“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” Swinney said in one of the chats. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough to crush them at some point.”

When asked about his calls for violence, Swinney told HuffPost at the time that Proud Boys members are “warriors” and that “Choir boys don’t go up against people like [anti-fascists]. It takes a person with a certain type of mindset.”

Swinney’s bail has been set at more than $500,000, according to jail records.

Nice clip of joe Biden interrupting Paul Ryan 82 times during the Vice President debate 2012.

Of course accompanied by clips of the media praising it.

Fucking typical. When the shoe is on the other foot, it’s fine. It’s “lively”

GTFO. Trump won the debate

Nice clip of joe Biden interrupting Paul Ryan 82 times during the Vice President debate 2012.

Of course accompanied by clips of the media praising it.

Fucking typical. When the shoe is on the other foot, it’s fine. It’s “lively”

GTFO. Trump won the debate

STFU, America lost the debate!