skinsfaninok
09-28-2020, 01:27 PM
Anytime the head coach comes out and says "There is a cut off point" with his QB, you know the dude just isn't getting better. Same situation in Chicago happened and they were 2-0 at the time... If a QB isn't good in todays pass friendly league that's a bad sign lol
Number44
09-28-2020, 02:31 PM
I can't handle the naked truth!
You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall!
SkinsGuru
09-28-2020, 02:47 PM
I don't think Haskins is Patrick Ramsey bad but it may get there
??? Patrick Ramsey was far better than Haskins has been. Hell Shane Mathews and Danny Wuerffel was too for that matter.
Monkeydad
09-28-2020, 02:49 PM
Keep him in all 16 games.
He came in late last season on an already-sunk ship.
This year is not going to be a win-now year and Rivera never approached it this way. If it were, we'd still have Peterson.
Let Haskins learn as much as he can...and that means learn from mistakes. He has all of the physical capabilities to be an NFL QB. His issue is in his head. This can be fixed.
Yesterday he stared down receivers and the defense made him pay for it. He and the coaches know what needs to be fixed.
Another thing that needs to be fixed is the offensive line. The sacks and fumbles aren't all on Dwayne.
We're in a full tear-down and rebuild mode. Don't expect it to be pretty on day 1.
I'm trusting our new coach to being the team back to success, but it can't be done overnight. He needs to see if Haskins is his guy or not. He might be, but we'll never find out by benching him now and destroying his career before it even gets started.
Don't forget, Peyton Manning looked like absolute trash in his rookie year, 56% comp rate with 28 INTs.
I'm not saying Haskins is Manning, but I also don't think he's one we should give up on yet. If he can eliminate his mental mistakes, he has the arm and physical attributes to be a great NFL QB. He and McLaurin could be very special together at the pro level, much like the connection they had in college.
Monkeydad
09-28-2020, 02:51 PM
No way he gets the entire season. As Ron said it ain't fair to the other players when the QB is playing so poorly. You think it's fair to the other wr's who are playing with a guy who can't get the job done? He really should of had 4 picks but he got bailed out by Wright.
Allen can run the offense better. I have no question about that. He at least had some really good games last year.
That offense had Christian McCaffery.
Summo
09-28-2020, 03:13 PM
I'm late to the party as usual, but why would they not leave him in the whole season? Where are they going this year?
Rivera said in his post game conference yesterday that he had the same situation with Cam Newton and two years later he was league MVP.
I'm not say Haskins is Cam but give the kid a chance and let him take his lumps.
I think the problem lies with Turner so far. He needs to help him out with easier throws, quicker ones behind that shit O-Line.
Monkeydad
09-28-2020, 03:18 PM
Haskins and Cam actually are quite similar with the exception that Can runs more.
Cam was also horrible for a few years, I remember the fans wanting them to cut him pretty early on. Even in his successful years, he wasn't the greatest passer. If you look at his passing stats, he's really only had about 3 decent seasons and 1 good one.
Haskins has a far superior arm than Cam. He just needs to learn how to use it at this level. Once he does, the throws he'll be making will be fun to watch.
And Dwayne probably won't look like a pineapple.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/req/20180910/images/headshots/NewtCa00_2020.jpg
Summo
09-28-2020, 03:19 PM
Haskins and Cam actually are quite similar with the exception that Can runs more.
Cam was also horrible for a few years, I remember the fans wanting them to cut him pretty early on. Even in his successful years, he wasn't the greatest passer.
Haskins has a far superior arm than Cam. He just needs to learn how to use it at this level. Once he does, the throws he'll be making will be fun to watch.
EXACTLY! Everyone needs to chill the hell out. :D
Sorry but Cam was far better right off the bat, he threw for 4000 yards as a rookie. Dwayne has a long way to go.
Monkeydad
09-28-2020, 03:24 PM
Sorry but Cam was far better right off the bat, he threw for 4000 yards as a rookie. Dwayne has a long way to go.
And almost as many INTS as TDs.
You're right, he did have a decent rookie year, then had several years of garbage play. He had one of the biggest sophomore slumps. Later on, he even had a season where he completed 52%. That's unacceptable for an NFL QB. He's been a sub-60% passer most years, his value comes in his ability to run. Once that's gone, he's done for good.