sdskinsfan2001
09-25-2020, 03:39 AM
This is for the left side of the Warpath, do y'all really think Democratic politicians unanimously (literally 100%) support mail-in ballots for everyone because and only because it's just as fair as everyone voting in-person? And it has absolutely nothing to do with them knowing 100% this benefits their party? Honesty would be greatly appreciated here.
Note - A large portion of why I switched from Republican to Libertarian was because I got sick and tired of Republicans supporting the chamber of commerce (aka the chamber of big business), etc. It's ok to admit flaws about your party.
mooby
09-25-2020, 05:48 AM
Realistically, Dems support mail-in voting because they think it gives them the advantage.
Also realistically, does the right seriously believe mail-in voting is susceptible to major fraud when the POTUS, VPOTUS, his staff and plenty of cabinet officials like Barr/etc. use it?
I also think as much as Trump loves being the one-man fix-it show he wouldn't have any problem finding funding for the USPS and for election security. Why is election security a partisan issue? Do we all not want the same thing, a fair election?
I could go into a rant about voter suppression and certain swing states continuing to put restrictions in place to disenfranchise a certain population but we'll save that argument for another day.
S/N: shoutout to you calling out the chamber of commerce. I'm still thirsty waiting for that trickle-down to take effect.
Chico23231
09-25-2020, 07:52 AM
Mail in voting is extremely dumb because of the multiple obvious issues.
They should move the voting period to a 2 day event and one of those days being a holiday. Absentee voting should cover the rest.
sdskinsfan2001
09-25-2020, 09:41 AM
Mail in voting is extremely dumb because of the multiple obvious issues.
They should move the voting period to a 2 day event and one of those days being a holiday. Absentee voting should cover the rest.
I definitely think national election day should be a national Holiday. Don't really know what is more important to our country and free people in general than voting.
Or have election day on a Saturday so people don't have to take time off work. Better yet just have election weekend.
sdskinsfan2001
09-25-2020, 09:51 AM
Realistically, Dems support mail-in voting because they think it gives them the advantage.
Also realistically, does the right seriously believe mail-in voting is susceptible to major fraud when the POTUS, VPOTUS, his staff and plenty of cabinet officials like Barr/etc. use it?
I also think as much as Trump loves being the one-man fix-it show he wouldn't have any problem finding funding for the USPS and for election security. Why is election security a partisan issue? Do we all not want the same thing, a fair election?
I could go into a rant about voter suppression and certain swing states continuing to put restrictions in place to disenfranchise a certain population but we'll save that argument for another day.
S/N: shoutout to you calling out the chamber of commerce. I'm still thirsty waiting for that trickle-down to take effect.
I think it's way easier to commit fraud by mail than voting in person.
The USPS is a disaster and that goes well back before Trump was president. I don't trust them to properly administer making a sandwich, let alone administer voting security. But yes, we should spend whatever it takes to ensure fair elections. But I don't think the 2 sides are remotely close to agreeing what the security issues are though, such as allowing massive mail-in ballots or not.
sdskinsfan2001
09-25-2020, 09:53 AM
Or have election day on a Saturday so people don't have to take time off work. Better yet just have election weekend.
I would be good with this option as well.
RobH4413
09-25-2020, 12:18 PM
I like the idea of election weekend. Have the open for 48 hours straight if you want to really do it right.
Obviously, it poses certain financial challenges... but this is voting and democracy. Let's do it.
Republicans would never go for it for obvious reasons.
mooby
09-25-2020, 12:58 PM
Republicans would never go for it for obvious reasons.
This. Glad we can all agree that is a better idea than our current system though.