Skins getting heat again over name issue

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rocnrik
07-04-2020, 11:47 AM
It’s all political anyways ... I will always remember the Redskins and the joy and frustration they gave me ! Hopeful that the Native American tradition will continue with a few tweaks .. I kinda like the Warpath as a team nickname .. Washington Warpath !! I just hope it’s not some watered down name like the federals or monuments or something with different colors .. the feather on the helmet with a W would be nice .. if the teams retains the Native American theme I think most are on board ..

Chico23231
07-04-2020, 12:21 PM
I will never ever ever wear anything other then my REDSKINS gear. I am not going to follow this fake ass movement that is going on. A bunch of pandering (mostly white) people who really don't give two shits about native americans. I just can't get behind it cause it's empty. It's fake. It's weak as hell. I will never call this team the Washington Warriors. Ever.

This....I’m loading up on skins gear

skinsfan69
07-04-2020, 01:37 PM
If I walked onto a reservation and 8 out of 10 Native Americans said they didn't give a shit or supported the name and 2 didn't like it, I would keep on keepin' on. There's always going to be people offended by something. Should we stop killing and eating animals because PETA is offended? When 8 out of 10 people who identify as Native American aren't offended (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html), that was good enough for me. That's no longer the case. Now it's 20% of Native Americans, the entire Democratic party, District and federal officials who own RFK, and Fedex, Nike, and $620 billion worth of corporate money backing them. It's now overwhelmingly negative, and as such an announcement will be coming soon. I'm not gonna tweak about it when it's gone, and I'm not denying up until March, there was a small group of Native Americans offended by the name. But you're not gonna get an apology out of me either for supporting the name up until now.

Nike and Fed Ex really don't care about the name. They didn't give a damn until the dirty pig killed Floyd. Now all of a sudden they care? 😏 As far as DC their govt is basically retarded. Here you had Marshall's statue up in front of RFK for decades. Then you decide to take it down now when no one goes to the stadium and when it's going to be demolished? Got it.

I would forgive Snyder for all of his mishaps if he came out and said.. " sorry we ain't changing shit and are not going to be pressured into anything"..

And also Ron R has been here 6 minutes and hasn't won a damn game. He should have ZERO say in this..

Giantone
07-04-2020, 01:44 PM
Sigh...Punch again calling me a racist because I disagree with him.

This is directly from the liberal playbook when they have no argument.


chico , that might play out if it was anyone else but you.

punch it in
07-04-2020, 02:53 PM
chico , that might play out if it was anyone else but you.



Lol. So many hundreds of posts - most of which he eventually apologizes for. Classic.

mooby
07-04-2020, 03:04 PM
Nike and Fed Ex really don't care about the name. They didn't give a damn until the dirty pig killed Floyd. Now all of a sudden they care? 😏 As far as DC their govt is basically retarded. Here you had Marshall's statue up in front of RFK for decades. Then you decide to take it down now when no one goes to the stadium and when it's going to be demolished? Got it.

I would forgive Snyder for all of his mishaps if he came out and said.. " sorry we ain't changing shit and are not going to be pressured into anything"..

And also Ron R has been here 6 minutes and hasn't won a damn game. He should have ZERO say in this..

Couple things, I totally agree that Dan, Nike, Fedex, and any other major company only care about this issue because it's affecting their bottom line of making money.

But Dan can't put Ron in charge of the entire operation (which it is clear he did) and then say his input isn't welcome on the name.

Also Jimbo you bring nothing to this conversation and it pains me that I am on the same side as you.

skinsfaninok
07-04-2020, 03:13 PM
It’s not going to be anything Native American related. The Indians, Braves, Chiefs and Blackhawks are all next on the chopping block.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFrom redskinstoday "Dan wants to keep the look but change the name to a Native tribe for respect "

Hmmmm

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sdskinsfan2001
07-04-2020, 03:26 PM
From redskinstoday "Dan wants to keep the look but change the name to a Native tribe for respect "

Hmmmm

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Hope this is true. This is what I want.

Warthog
07-04-2020, 04:53 PM
I think this is an issue that is just going to happen. Dan Snyder is facing the loss of hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars if he doesn’t move. Things do change and this is a done deal - New Team Name

When Snyder makes the change a lot of positive things happen:

1. Some fans come back who stayed away from the team.
2. Hundreds of millions flows back to the team.
3. New name may mean new uniforms, etc.,
Which is more money to the team (although NFL Labeled stuff go into the pool shared by all teams).
4. Snyder can say this is the NEW START for his team after 20 years of mediocrity.
5. He can get the D.C. politicians behind his move to build a new stadium where RFK STADIUM stood.


If Snyder is going on the Native American route then it will depend on couple of things:

A. The tribe has to agree to using their name. They might get paid for it.
B. This may sound stupid but he may go for a tribe name with TWO SYLLABLES. That way it fits into the teams fight song.
C. I would think he would go with a team with a warrior culture. Some tribes were basically peaceful (Navaho). WARRIOR CULTURE
D. A FAMOUS TRIBE that has name recognition. There are HUNDREDS OF TRIBES in America, many of them small. I think he would go for a FAMOUS, PLAINS INDIAN TRIBE that has two syllables, and will allow use of their name:

CHEYENNE


I can’t think of any more teams with all the criteria. Warrior culture tribes like APACHE (3 syllables), SIOUX (one syllable), COMMANCHE (3 syllables) don’t fit. Of course, he could just change the fight song, but it appears that Snyder is going for tradition (keeping our famous fight song intact).

I may be making too much of a tribe that fits the fight song, but if there are hundreds of Native American tribes to choose from, why not pick one where it causes the least changes? I think that is what Snyder is going for.

FAMOUS TRIBE
WARRIOR CULTURE
TWO SYLLABLES (fits fight song)
TRIBE WILLING TO Let the Team Use Their Name

CHEYENNE

Can anyone think of another famous tribe, with a warrior culture, that is two syllables?


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Warthog
07-04-2020, 05:19 PM
On the same theme he could go with

MOHAWK - an EASTERN tribe, warrior culture, well known (a tribe used in the famous American novel and movie, “Last of the Mohicans”)
AND - no need to change the fight song or most of the team gear. They may change the Native American profile on the helmet back to the ARROW profile.

My best guess now:

MOHAWK
CHEYENNE

It will be MOHAWK if the tribe agrees to it. They would get paid to use the name and it would bring positive light on the tribe.


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