The McNabb trade: 10 years later

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Pervis_Griffith
04-19-2020, 06:53 PM
Dan was desperate, Mcnabb was just another Band-Aid.. RG3 was supposed to be the savior... Man we've made some Awful QB moves

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And we have been so so close in the draft to at least two HOF'ers ...

1983, Marino fell all the way to the second to last pick Miami ... we took Darrell Green in the last pick of that first round, which was awesome. But can you imagine Joe Gibbs with Dan Marino??? And there's no reason to think Green wouldn't have fallen to us in the second round too. That would have been all time home run ...

2005, Aaron Rodgers falls all the way to Green Bay at 24. We picked Jason Campbell at 25. (And chose Carlos Rogers at 9 earlier that round, to be fair).


What could have been ...

skinsfaninok
04-19-2020, 07:29 PM
And we have been so so close in the draft to at least two HOF'ers ...



1983, Marino fell all the way to the second to last pick Miami ... we took Darrell Green in the last pick of that first round, which was awesome. But can you imagine Joe Gibbs with Dan Marino??? And there's no reason to think Green wouldn't have fallen to us in the second round too. That would have been all time home run ...



2005, Aaron Rodgers falls all the way to Green Bay at 24. We picked Jason Campbell at 25. (And chose Carlos Rogers at 9 earlier that round, to be fair).





What could have been ...Wilson instead of Rg3/Kirk.

Notice the trend? Lol

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Pervis_Griffith
04-19-2020, 07:47 PM
Wilson instead of Rg3/Kirk.

Notice the trend? Lol

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So we shouldn't draft QB's in the top 5 - 10 ...

Sorry Tua.

lol

skinsfaninok
04-19-2020, 07:52 PM
So we shouldn't draft QB's in the top 5 - 10 ...



Sorry Tua.



lolHaha yes

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Warthog
04-19-2020, 10:54 PM
And we have been so so close in the draft to at least two HOF'ers ...

1983, Marino fell all the way to the second to last pick Miami ... we took Darrell Green in the last pick of that first round, which was awesome. But can you imagine Joe Gibbs with Dan Marino??? And there's no reason to think Green wouldn't have fallen to us in the second round too. That would have been all time home run ...

2005, Aaron Rodgers falls all the way to Green Bay at 24. We picked Jason Campbell at 25. (And chose Carlos Rogers at 9 earlier that round, to be fair).


What could have been ...


Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers. Excellent recounting of the HUGE draft misses of that era . Both of those QB’s are/were great and had long careers of winning football.

I remember when we had Jason Campbell - he would have occasional flashes of brilliance but couldn’t carry the team or win the close games. Just good enough to make the team give him a few more games to try to see if he was the franchise leader we needed. We have had a terrible record of drafting QB, with our first pick, since the early 1990’s: Shuler, Ramsey, Campbell, RG3. All total busts, except RG3’s rookie year.

I think Haskins will be a winner if he is supported with the missing pieces to the OL and TE and WR.


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Pervis_Griffith
04-19-2020, 11:58 PM
Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers. Excellent recounting of the HUGE draft misses of that era . Both of those QB’s are/were great and had long careers of winning football.

I remember when we had Jason Campbell - he would have occasional flashes of brilliance but couldn’t carry the team or win the close games. Just good enough to make the team give him a few more games to try to see if he was the franchise leader we needed. We have had a terrible record of drafting QB, with our first pick, since the early 1990’s: Shuler, Ramsey, Campbell, RG3.

I think Haskins will be a winner if he is supported with the missing pieces to the OL and TE and WR.


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We never had a chance at Marino .. the only team to not have a chance.

But we clearly chose the wrong Rogers at pick 9 ... Carlos over Aaron. Not that we woulda done much WITH Aaron. But maybe.

Our track record with first round QB draftees is a bit worrisome for Haskins. I am hoping for the best and like others here, found his last couple games encouraging, minus the posing for victory selfies with fans ....

Buffalo Bob
04-20-2020, 09:13 AM
The Redskins haven't had a franchise QB since Theismann and he retired 35 years ago.

Warthog
04-20-2020, 09:45 AM
The Redskins haven't had a franchise QB since Theismann and he retired 35 years ago.


That’s about right.


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AnonEmouse
04-20-2020, 10:12 AM
I bet you could look at 10-15 teams that this also applies to, or at least in part. The curious thing is, with all the expertise that theoretically should be out there in the scouting/GM space, so many teams still seem to trip themselves up with high picks, especially QB. I mean at the time would everyone really have turned their noses up at the likes of Leaf, Schuler, Russell etc.? I doubt it.

I just struggle to fathom how this process fails so (relatively) often. With all the time and money invested...

SolidSnake84
04-20-2020, 01:21 PM
I bet you could look at 10-15 teams that this also applies to, or at least in part. The curious thing is, with all the expertise that theoretically should be out there in the scouting/GM space, so many teams still seem to trip themselves up with high picks, especially QB. I mean at the time would everyone really have turned their noses up at the likes of Leaf, Schuler, Russell etc.? I doubt it.

I just struggle to fathom how this process fails so (relatively) often. With all the time and money invested...

I posted about this one time years ago, how were all of those busts able to fool scouts, NFL GM's, etc...

The answer i was given at the time was that the teams, etc. were aware of the risks and the high probability of failure, but the talent was seen as so immense and rare that it was worth the risk. Take Jamarcus Russell for example. He had arm talent that didn't seem humanly possible. The only other player i have seen in my life with his equivalent arm strength was Jeff George. Looking back on them now, both are considered busts, but i will argue that George had a more successful NFL career.

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