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SunnySide 04-17-2020, 11:03 AM As someone who works in the space, this is a fucking lie. Not just a lie, a fucking lie. Im watching the money flow through KYC AML...and that's a lie. They using the typical race baiting bullshit they are known for.
I thought the original bill was fine negotiate a big bill... not this, not this at all. Its horseshit by Pelosi, pure political horseshit.
Chico, can you please explain this to me like im a 10 year old. I have no clue what KYC AML is.
I would think making sure the money doesnt go to big businesses vs small companies is the main spirit of PPP, so why not have controls in place to ensure that?
I understand, if you are saying the money is going to small business and the program is working as intended ... you dont need the extra oversight for a problem if the problem does not exist.
Chico23231 04-17-2020, 11:19 AM Chico, can you please explain this to me like im a 10 year old. I have no clue what KYC AML is.
I would think making sure the money doesnt go to big businesses vs small companies is the main spirit of PPP, so why not have controls in place to ensure that?
I understand, if you are saying the money is going to small business and the program is working as intended ... you dont need the extra oversight for a problem if the problem does not exist.
its simple, regulatory controls already exist and the private side has partnered with fed government working multiple consecutive weekends to get the money to flow...which worked only because our infrastructure. To think its a free for all or the govt waves a magic wand its completely ignorant. The oversight of our controls thankfully have been loosened, but still remain rigid...do you think from a reputational risk, it would be smart to pick and chose in this moment to hold up other factors in determining who gets apps approved for funds? plus, you know, there laws on the books
But again...this isn't about the Small business, but other agenda items she want to insert
Giantone 04-17-2020, 05:07 PM As someone who works in the space, this is a fucking lie. Not just a lie, a fucking lie. Im watching the money flow through KYC AML...and that's a lie. They using the typical race baiting bullshit they are known for.
I thought the original bill was fine negotiate a big bill... not this, not this at all. Its horseshit by Pelosi, pure political horseshit.
No , this is horse shit by you . You and your PDDS .Pelosi Democrat Derangement Syndrome)
Giantone 04-17-2020, 05:09 PM its simple, regulatory controls already exist and the private side has partnered with fed government working multiple consecutive weekends to get the money to flow...which worked only because our infrastructure. To think its a free for all or the govt waves a magic wand its completely ignorant. The oversight of our controls thankfully have been loosened, but still remain rigid...do you think from a reputational risk, it would be smart to pick and chose in this moment to hold up other factors in determining who gets apps approved for funds? plus, you know, there laws on the books
But again...this isn't about the Small business, but other agenda items she want to insert
Nothing you said here answer SS question.
Giantone 04-17-2020, 05:13 PM But again...this isn't about the Small business, but other agenda items she want to insert
Yes it's about small business's and the hospital workers and the people who really need it ,not Boeing getting 50 billion or the Kennedy Center getting money.
For God sake chico stop your shit!
"Small businesses, hospitals, frontline workers and state and local governments across the country are struggling to keep up with this national crisis. They need more help from the federal government and they need it fast. ... While the Trump Administration struggles to figure out how to distribute the funds provided for in the CARES Act, it’s clear that those appropriated amounts will not be enough to cover the tremendous need," Schumer and Pelosi said on Monday.
Democrats also want to make changes to the PPP, ensuring that half of the new $250 billion in funding goes through "community-based financial institutions that serve farmers, family, women, minority and veteran-owned small businesses." Democrats have raised concerns that the current setup of the program favors larger businesses with existing connections to a lender."
Chico23231 04-17-2020, 05:32 PM not worth my time. Never mind.
CRedskinsRule 04-18-2020, 09:43 AM Youth Sports are probably done for, at least until we get a vaccine. So i've been meaning to post this question for a while now, just to get your input, but what businesses / industries in America do you think will be permanently gone / forever changed? I'll give you my quick list:
Gone:
Youth / High School Sports (Until we get a vaccine)
Cruise Ships
Beach Resorts
Theme Parks
Movie Theaters
Every retail store that isn't Wal-Mart or a Grocery Stores
Permanently Changed:
Restaurants - dine in will never be allowed again
School - Schools will go to all distance learning until we get a vaccine
Grocery Stores - in person limit, rationing of certain items will continue for next several years
Travel - People will not be able to leave the USA unless it is proven to be for essential work, etc.
Public Parks - family gatherings, BBQ's etc will no longer be allowed
so much for beaches/beach resorts being gone/Public Parks being permanently changed:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-beach-reopen-coronavirus-mad-dash_n_5e9aa140c5b63639081ed802
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/eq6QaMGjobek.vKbDnewIg--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNQ--/https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5e9aa1ee25000053286b8153.jpeg
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Chico23231 04-18-2020, 11:05 AM https://www.dailywire.com/news/illinois-pleads-for-multi-billion-dollar-pension-bailout-in-federal-coronavirus-request
This should make everyone irate...trying to take advantage of the Wuhan virus crisis to bailout a corrupt, 20 year mismanaged Illinois State pension fund. God awful disgraceful request by democratic leadership there.
Schneed10 04-18-2020, 11:42 AM https://www.dailywire.com/news/illinois-pleads-for-multi-billion-dollar-pension-bailout-in-federal-coronavirus-request
This should make everyone irate...trying to take advantage of the Wuhan virus crisis to bailout a corrupt, 20 year mismanaged Illinois State pension fund. God awful disgraceful request by democratic leadership there.
Wuhan virus. You're such a fucking idiot. Transparent attempts to assign nationality to a virus do not work on those of us with half a brain. Trump and his ilk who adopt his tactics speak only to the lowest common denominator in this country. GTFO with this bullshit, we're too smart here to put up with this drivel.
Schneed10 04-18-2020, 11:55 AM Yes it's about small business's and the hospital workers and the people who really need it ,not Boeing getting 50 billion or the Kennedy Center getting money.
For God sake chico stop your shit!
"Small businesses, hospitals, frontline workers and state and local governments across the country are struggling to keep up with this national crisis. They need more help from the federal government and they need it fast. ... While the Trump Administration struggles to figure out how to distribute the funds provided for in the CARES Act, it’s clear that those appropriated amounts will not be enough to cover the tremendous need," Schumer and Pelosi said on Monday.
Democrats also want to make changes to the PPP, ensuring that half of the new $250 billion in funding goes through "community-based financial institutions that serve farmers, family, women, minority and veteran-owned small businesses." Democrats have raised concerns that the current setup of the program favors larger businesses with existing connections to a lender."
Giantone I usually dismiss your posts as biased but I have to say this one is accurate, and let me give you a window into how and why.
I work as an executive at a hospital, many of you know this. The CARES act set aside $100 billion in funds to support hospitals. They just distributed the first 30% of the funds to hospitals - and they did it without regard to which hospitals were actually bearing the burden of caring for patients with COVID.
All they did was take the $100B, multiply it by 30%, meaning they're distributing $30B. And they took that $30B and just distributed it to hospitals based on the proportion of Medicare revenue those hospitals had last year.
In other words, if a hospital in New York had 0.005% of the Medicare revenues in the country last year, and a hospital in Nebraska had 0.005% of Medicare revenues in the country last year, they got the exact same $ amount from this first distribution. Nevermind the fact that the hospital in NY is actually treating COVID-19 patients in droves, while the hospital in Nebraska barely has any.
So the hospital in Nebraska is sitting there with this windfall, and the hospital in New York doesn't have nearly enough to pay for PPE, ventilators, etc. etc.
It was lazy and poorly executed. The equivalent of just waving a wand and being done with it. It's easy to dismiss things we read in the news these days as biased, because few journalists these days can actually connect it to facts, and how things are actually done. But this is an illustration of how poorly Trump and his administration have managed the crisis. They don't understand nuances of the pandemic enough to manage it properly - so they just wave a wand as if they can't be bothered with careful planning and foresight.
Very disappointing.
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