Giantone
08-05-2021, 05:41 AM
come on now just google the covid nursing home deaths in new york, new jersey etc. And why it happened (political contributions were involved) . That is the primary reason the death rate was so high in those states -not because it was the early epicenter. Additionally lockdown states did no better with covid stats (and the aforementioned did a whole lot worse) than states that didn't lock down.
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mooby
08-05-2021, 06:06 AM
“But trump”…I guess I won’t hear a SS rant about whataboutism…
Let’s look at the last 10-15 years of New York State Democrats and their sexual harassment, Elliot Spitz, Anthony Weiner and Cuomo. David Paterson also involved had multiple sexual harassment incidents since leaving office. I’m not even listing state legislators in New York
It’s clear, the Democratic Party in the state of New York is complicit in this behavior. Period
Nice try Chico but I'm not gonna defend a party I don't follow and know nothing about.
What I do know is this - sexual harassment is not a left vs. right issue. It's a men vs. women issue. And consistently when Dems get caught do it we ostracize the guy - for an old example why don't we ask Al Franken what he's doing?
Oh yeah and the whole "but Trump" thing - is that the best defense of his behavior you got? Weak. Here, let me help you with your defense. Your options are: A. his behavior is perfectly acceptable or B. He literally does sooooooo much good for the country it excuses him grabbing women by the pussy (amongst other things).
punch it in
08-05-2021, 07:48 AM
Come on now just google the COVID nursing home deaths in New York, New Jersey etc. and why it happened (Political contributions were involved) . That is the primary reason the death rate was so high in those states -not because it was the early epicenter. Additionally lockdown states did no better with Covid stats (and the aforementioned did a whole lot worse) than States that didn't lock down.
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Chico23231
08-05-2021, 08:26 AM
Nice try Chico but I'm not gonna defend a party I don't follow and know nothing about.
What I do know is this - sexual harassment is not a left vs. right issue. It's a men vs. women issue. And consistently when Dems get caught do it we ostracize the guy - for an old example why don't we ask Al Franken what he's doing?
Oh yeah and the whole "but Trump" thing - is that the best defense of his behavior you got? Weak. Here, let me help you with your defense. Your options are: A. his behavior is perfectly acceptable or B. He literally does sooooooo much good for the country it excuses him grabbing women by the pussy (amongst other things).
Lol…no I’m not gonna comment on the disturbing pattern of men in the New York Democratic Party over the last 10-15 years. a party i support with unapologetically.
but again, what about Trump, as if this somehow excuses this behavior.
What about Tara Reade?
SunnySide
08-05-2021, 10:00 AM
Come on now just google the COVID nursing home deaths in New York, New Jersey etc. and why it happened (Political contributions were involved) . That is the primary reason the death rate was so high in those states -not because it was the early epicenter. Additionally lockdown states did no better with Covid stats (and the aforementioned did a whole lot worse) than States that didn't lock down.
The non-lockdown States were the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, Utah ... Id hope we could agree they are a bit different than NY,CA, FL
mooby
08-05-2021, 10:03 AM
Lol…no I’m not gonna comment on the disturbing pattern of men in the New York Democratic Party over the last 10-15 years. a party i support with unapologetically.
but again, what about Trump, as if this somehow excuses this behavior.
What about Tara Reade?
But I don't support them unapologetically. I don't even follow them - because their policies do not have any bearing on where I live.
mooby
08-05-2021, 10:23 AM
Lol…no I’m not gonna comment on the disturbing pattern of men in the New York Democratic Party over the last 10-15 years. a party i support with unapologetically.
but again, what about Trump, as if this somehow excuses this behavior.
What about Tara Reade?
I had to refamiliarize myself with her and her allegations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation#:~:text=During %20the%202020%20election%20campaign,in%20a%20Capit ol%20Hill%20office).
Gonna assume you have already condemned Biden as being guilty of sexual assault because he's put his hands on women's shoulders and done similar things to that before right?
As you can already assume I'm just not sure whether to convict Biden due to the inconsistencies in her story - including her previous support of Biden all those years he wasn't running for president, and her statement saying "I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.” Sure the allegations might be credible - but there's no way to prove it and her story is inconsistent.
Who's up next Chico? What Dem politician is abusing his power or harassing women? Your declining to defend Trump while parading about the systemic pattern of promoting sexual harassers in the NYDP is weak. -5 respect.
nonniey
08-05-2021, 10:24 AM
The non-lockdown States were the Dakotas, Iowa, Nebraska, Utah ... Id hope we could agree they are a bit different than NY,CA, FL
Florida was a non lock down State.
nonniey
08-05-2021, 10:27 AM
bs.
What is BS about it? The nursing home fiasco is widely known, reported on and heck even acknowledged now.
It's simply false to say the nursing homes were the reason for the high early number of cases and deaths in NY. Population density led to it spreading quickly along with NYC being an international travel hub.
Coronavirus Transmission in Queens Drove the First Wave of New York City’s COVID-19 Pandemic (https://nyulangone.org/news/coronavirus-transmission-queens-drove-first-wave-new-york-citys-covid-19-pandemic)
Why New York is the epicenter of the American coronavirus outbreak (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/us/new-york-coronavirus-explainer/index.html)