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BigHairedAristocrat 02-11-2020, 02:41 PM I really do think we will have forgotten about this by the time the season starts. Its a slow part of the year, so we all spend more time discussing and debating things which are ultimately barely news-worthy.
Give his agent permission to seek a trade with another team. If there is value there we should trade him, if not, he plays for us or sits.
pretty much
CrazyCanuck 02-11-2020, 07:07 PM I don’t blame him either, but I also don’t blame the team if they’re reluctant to give him big money based on his injury history. Should be interesting to see how this goes with Rivera.
Agreed. I don't blame Dunbar for seeking out a new contract. That being said he signed an extension a couple years back so it's not like he's making the league minimum. I leave it in RR's hands.
Most likely scenario - Dunbar has 2 INTs in SB LV (not for us). ;)
Warthog 02-11-2020, 08:40 PM Dunbar has seen so many of his fellow players, ON THIS TEAM, get hurt. If you don’t have guaranteed money in your contract, and you get hurt, you get NOTHING. Dunbar is getting $3.5 million and CB’s at his level (elite) get $10 mill. So he’s trying to protect himself. I get it.
Dunbar’s a player we REALLY want to keep. He was a nobody UDFA who changed positions and is now the second-best CB in the NFL. The Redskins got him super-cheap and now he’s going to be paid. Let’s get him signed up and move on.
With our upcoming fierce pass rush (with Chase) our DB’s are going to have a field day. With the release of all the players who were OVERPAID and did not play or grossly underperform (Norman, Richardson, Davis, Reed, McCoy, etc) we will have cap money to keep our best players and build a winning culture. Sign up Dunbar and pay him what he has earned.
I think it’s a good chance we will bring back Kendall Fuller. Bring him back at CB to see if he can recover his mojo that he had with us. Just a cheap, one-year contract. What’s not to like?
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budw38 02-11-2020, 08:46 PM Let's not overreact.
Dude is just trying to get paid.
You can't discard every player that isn't a choirboy and expect to win.
The best coaches can get the best out of these diva players.
The only culture that matters is a winning culture.
While I agree with you , I will give you a little something . Two years ago , when The Skins decided to not pick up the option on J. Doctson ( WR ) , we were at a party with a guy who worked with the Skins Med/Training staff . After a few cold ones , he finally answered us about Doctson . His reply …. biggest crybaby he had been around at NFL level . Next biggest crybaby … Dunbar . Maybe he is not really ready for camp RR / Del Rio ?
Warthog 02-12-2020, 12:36 AM While I agree with you , I will give you a little something . Two years ago , when The Skins decided to not pick up the option on J. Doctson ( WR ) , we were at a party with a guy who worked with the Skins Med/Training staff . After a few cold ones , he finally answered us about Doctson . His reply …. biggest crybaby he had been around at NFL level . Next biggest crybaby … Dunbar . Maybe he is not really ready for camp RR / Del Rio ?
Difference between Doctson and Dunbar was that Doctson was a total draft bust, and he was a first round draft pick at that. Not even sure if he’s in the NFL at all. He was drafted high and just never came close to filling his potential.
Dunbar was an unheard of Undrafted Free Agent (UDFA) who started as a WR. Then Gruden had him switch to CB. Dunbar has improved every season and is now the second or third best CB in the NFL. He’s got one season left on his contract. No guaranteed money, so if he gets hurt, he gets nothing. So I see where he’s coming from. There have been so many injuries on this team, including some really bad one like Alex Smith, so I can understand an outstanding player like Dunbar worried about getting hurt before he gets a new, big contract for his level of play.
Get him in a good contract with guaranteed money and let’s move down the road. He’s going to be one of the cornerstones (no pun intended!) of the defense.
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budw38 02-12-2020, 07:07 AM Difference between Doctson and Dunbar was that Doctson was a total draft bust, and he was a first round draft pick at that. Not even sure if he’s in the NFL at all. He was drafted high and just never came close to filling his potential.
Dunbar was an unheard of Undrafted Free Agent (UDFA) who started as a WR. Then Gruden had him switch to CB. Dunbar has improved every season and is now the second or third best CB in the NFL. He’s got one season left on his contract. No guaranteed money, so if he gets hurt, he gets nothing. So I see where he’s coming from. There have been so many injuries on this team, including some really bad one like Alex Smith, so I can understand an outstanding player like Dunbar worried about getting hurt before he gets a new, big contract for his level of play.
Get him in a good contract with guaranteed money and let’s move down the road. He’s going to be one of the cornerstones (no pun intended!) of the defense.
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Im fine with the team keeping him . Just that maybe he is not very tough , he might not be RR / JDR type of player ? Would love to have a pair of great corners for the next few years .
Warthog 02-12-2020, 08:43 AM Im fine with the team keeping him . Just that maybe he is not very tough , he might not be RR / JDR type of player ? Would love to have a pair of great corners for the next few years .
Yeah, the hit on Dunbar is his injuries and missed games. If the redskins end up trading him it’s probably because of his injury issues. Or because he’s not buying into RR’s program. But if they trade him for draft picks it still means that they need to find good to draft picks or FA at:
LB
CB x 2 ( Dunbar gone)
FS
So I still think the Redskins will try to re-sign Dunbar as a homegrown talent!
Chico23231 02-12-2020, 09:27 AM So we have estimated a value of a contract per year of 10 mil per in a 3-4 year range.
His value on the field, best CB and best coverage guy in the secondary. Among peers, PFF has him as one of the top coverage guys...SS mentioned he doesn't get thrown at a ton, meaning he is doing his job.
So lets now look at his Trade Value...I think you throw 1st or 2nd round as laughable. I don't think we could get a 3rd round either based on injury history.
So you would take a 4th rounder? dumb move
CRedskinsRule 02-12-2020, 09:59 AM We were 3-13 last season. Our pass defense was horrid on 3rd downs. If he wants to stay and play for real defensive coaches fine, but if it not, I will put faith in our newly minted VP of player personnel and RR to find suitable replacements.
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