Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?


Redskins247
02-13-2020, 12:21 PM
Lions would have 34M in dead cap they would owe... It's not happening, these are just headlines because there is nothing to talk about. I'd be shocked if the top 5 teams moved at all

Even if they trade Stafford before the draft they'd still 34M in dead cap?

skinsfaninok
02-13-2020, 12:27 PM
Yep

"If he’s with the Lions in 2020, he will count $21,300,000 against the Lions 2020 Cap.

If he’s not with the Lions, he will count $32,000,000 against the Lions 2020 Cap."

Andrew Brandt

CRedskinsRule
02-13-2020, 12:33 PM
Lions would have 34M in dead cap they would owe... It's not happening, these are just headlines because there is nothing to talk about. I'd be shocked if the top 5 teams moved at all

I see this as more a gambit to get a team to trade with Detroit, and I definitely think either or both Detroit or the Giants will get some excellent trade offers from teams picking after the Dolphins, or possibly the Dolphins. One of those two spots will likely be traded (3 or 4 to teams picking 5,6 or 7). I doubt it will be a blockbuster trade, but one team will gain a few nice picks for a small drop in position.

CRedskinsRule
02-13-2020, 12:36 PM
Yep

"If he’s with the Lions in 2020, he will count $21,300,000 against the Lions 2020 Cap.

If he’s not with the Lions, he will count $32,000,000 against the Lions 2020 Cap."

Andrew Brandt

but ultimately that is a 10M cap hit for cutting/trading him. If they are picking up a rookie qb in his place they could afford that. Not saying they will/would, just that they could.

Redskins247
02-13-2020, 12:45 PM
It's possible Lions draft Tua and let him sit behind Staffford this year, fully heal and get acclimated to the NFL speed like Chiefs did with Mahomes...and maybe they trade him next season.

Chico23231
02-13-2020, 12:46 PM
I agree, which is why you only do the deal once you are on the clock, the bengals have already drafted Burrow, and you have assurances from the Lions that they are taking Tua; thereby having confidence you'd be able to get young at 3. The only risk in that scenario is that the Lions were lying and planning to take Young - which they would not do as once word got out, no one would ever trade with them again. Teams will publicly lie about their intentions all the time, but these front office people have to work with eachother year after year - there really is very minimal risk to this approach.

def folks would continue to trade if it improves their team and another issue would be after the trade, some one else offers Detroit a cant miss deal.

I just rather get the guy I want. Plus Stafford isn't going anywhere. he isn't the problem there.

Number44
02-13-2020, 12:57 PM
but ultimately that is a 10M cap hit for cutting/trading him. If they are picking up a rookie qb in his place they could afford that. Not saying they will/would, just that they could.

Actually, the cap hit for cutting or trading him would be $10.7 million plus the cost of his replacement. They pay the $21.3 million either way, and if he isn't on the team, another quarterback has to be paid.

CRedskinsRule
02-13-2020, 01:45 PM
Actually, the cap hit for cutting or trading him would be $10.7 million plus the cost of his replacement. They pay the $21.3 million either way, and if he isn't on the team, another quarterback has to be paid.Right, and if they trade him they clearly would take Tua or Herbert which would be the rookie pay that they would take anyway.

Now maybe they would need better backups (0-8 with backups last season) but that would be true anyways.

Number44
02-13-2020, 02:29 PM
Right, and if they trade him they clearly would take Tua or Herbert which would be the rookie pay that they would take anyway.

Now maybe they would need better backups (0-8 with backups last season) but that would be true anyways.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. If you are saying that the Lions would not have to pay a quarterback to replace Stafford should they trade or release him, we are in disagreement.

CRedskinsRule
02-13-2020, 03:01 PM
I'm not sure what you are saying here. If you are saying that the Lions would not have to pay a quarterback to replace Stafford should they trade or release him, we are in disagreement.No, i am saying if they took a qb 3rd overall they would pay him a rookie wage for the next 5 years. Or roughly 8million this year. (Kyler Murray's cap hit was 6.3 mill for #1 overall last year)

It is a lot for a qb slot(40mill) but the next 4 years you have a lot of space to build around (assuming new cba gets done)

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