SunnySide
01-21-2020, 12:41 PM
I agree with you about the ping pong table. It was Rivera coming in and making a clear but highly symbolic gesture to current players that a new wind was blowing thru. But if you are saying Jay's way of practicing and prepping the team was not a problem then I strongly disagree with that.
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I admittedly have some Jay bias and protectionism going on.
FrenchSkin
01-21-2020, 04:15 PM
I think beyond the ping pong table and the number of padded practices, there was a general culture of not being accountable for anything under Jay.
It's not about Oklahoma drills for me, you can study film hard too... or not.
You can study the playbook and audibles hard... or not.
Blown coverages, missed tackles, blown blocking assignments and so on are not fixed by cracking skulls but by creating a culture of accountability that was clearly NOT instilled by Jay. Ping pong table or not.
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sdskinsfan2001
01-21-2020, 04:20 PM
I think beyond the ping pong table and the number of padded practices, there was a general culture of not being accountable for anything under Jay.
It's not about Oklahoma drills for me, you can study film hard too... or not.
You can study the playbook and audibles hard... or not.
Blown coverages, missed tackles, blown blocking assignments and so on are not fixed by cracking skulls but by creating a culture of accountability that was clearly NOT instilled by Jay. Ping pong table or not.
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Great post. Agree with everything you said.
Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all. Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.
AnonEmouse
01-21-2020, 06:35 PM
Great post. Agree with everything you said.
Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all. Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.
+1
Players have to hold themselves and each other accountable but that all starts with the coach and the regime.
FrenchSkin
01-21-2020, 07:40 PM
Great post. Agree with everything you said.
Is your team hardworking and accountable? If so, your chances of success are exponentially higher w/o taking actual talent into account at all. Club Jay didn't instill or demonstrate either of those qualities.
Agreed. I've never heard Bill Belichick was running more hard ass tough drills, what I've always heard though is that every player on his roster has to be able to do what his told, know and execute his duties, and if not he's gonna be held accountable for it... IE Malcom Butler being bench during the SB for some silly story (and that decision may have been questionnable, but I do think it's telling of the standard expected when you're on this team).
SkinzWin
01-21-2020, 10:16 PM
SiriusXM NFL radio just reported Jay Gruden was hired as the Jags OC.
mooby
01-21-2020, 11:03 PM
Good read by Barry Svrluga here on the Gibbs/Rivera connection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/joe-gibbs-sold-ron-rivera-on-the-redskins-and-dan-snyder-no-one-sells-them-harder/2020/01/21/d2b584d6-3c80-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com
And when the politics forum sucks the will to live out of me, it's quotes like these that remind me why we're all here.
“It’s the most powerful city in the world, and that football team means the world to that town,” Gibbs said he told Rivera. “It’s one of the very few things that brings everybody together. There’s no Democrat, Republican. It’s everybody for 3½ hours is going to cheer for that football team. . . .
sdskinsfan2001
01-22-2020, 06:39 AM
Good read by Barry Svrluga here on the Gibbs/Rivera connection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/joe-gibbs-sold-ron-rivera-on-the-redskins-and-dan-snyder-no-one-sells-them-harder/2020/01/21/d2b584d6-3c80-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com
And when the politics forum sucks the will to live out of me, it's quotes like these that remind me why we're all here.
A. I like the post and it's right. We're all Skins fans 1st. I'd gladly buy everyone here beers if we won any kind of important game
B. I love the "Liberal Snowflake" in your info section. Self depreciating humor is awesome
C. Couldn't figure out how you got B where it is so I changed my sig. line for the 1st time ever
skinsfan69
01-22-2020, 12:14 PM
Joe doesn't live here anymore and hasn't coached here in 12 years. Since he's left Snyder has run the team into the ground even more. The Caps have won a Stanley Cup, the Nats won the World Series, both have locations inside the city that are metro accessible. People simply don't care anymore. The evidence is right there at home games. Ravens games get more viewers in the DC market than Redskins games. Joe's way off in his statements but will always be PC.
I like this hire. However, I wish Snyder had gone out on his own, not talked w/ Gibbs and interviewed Bieniemy. He's been under Reid for several years now and what KC does on offense is so cutting edge. Reid has gone from a pure West Coast guy to being the most innovative coach in the league. If we had an offense like that ( Mahomes certainly helps..lol) the fans will come back. Offense sells, the QB sells ( as we saw w/ RG3) and of course winning sells.
FWD Skins
01-22-2020, 12:29 PM
SiriusXM NFL radio just reported Jay Gruden was hired as the Jags OC.
Absolute LOL. Did they not watch any games this year?