Coaching and Front Office Changes

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Ruhskins
01-09-2020, 06:56 PM
I really hope so for Kyle Smith's sake. I'm just not impressed with Hurney at all as GM. I would really have to start questioning Riverboat Ron if he made a move like that.



On the flip side as much as I like Kyle Smith as a talent evaluator, I feel the opposite way about Doug Williams. What kind of football man doesn't take into account a player's strengths and compatibility with a scheme before giving him 84 million dollars? It boggles the mind.When did Doug give someone 84 million dollars?

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FrenchSkin
01-09-2020, 07:07 PM
When did Doug give someone 84 million dollars?

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I think he's referring to Landon Collins' contract but yeah I don't see how it's on Doug.

Ruhskins
01-09-2020, 07:21 PM
I think he's referring to Landon Collins' contract but yeah I don't see how it's on Doug.Oh. Yeah, every free agent move was done by Bruce Allen, especially money aspects.

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5superbowls3wins
01-09-2020, 07:51 PM
I’ve gotten the sense that Rivera is not actually selecting people based on real talent and who’s best for the job. He’s simply hiring his friends and everyone from Carolina.

I don’t like this at all.


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mooby
01-09-2020, 07:53 PM
Oh. Yeah, every free agent move was done by Bruce Allen, especially money aspects.

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Doug

wow lol

As soon as I started typing this post, I googled Doug Williams so I could properly reference his title of senior VP of player personnel, and I could dig that quote up about how he didn't factor scheme into account when discussing how Landon Collins would fit here.

Which led me to this:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001095592/article/doug-williams-out-of-personnel-dept-in-redskins-reorg

Doug has been moved out of his former role into a new role as "Senior VP of player development" which reports directly to Riverboat Ron. Sounds like a mentor style job, whereas his former job involved directly scouting other pro players.

I'm a fan of this move.

CRedskinsRule
01-09-2020, 07:56 PM
I’ve gotten the sense that Rivera is not actually selecting people based on real talent and who’s best for the job. He’s simply hiring his friends and everyone from Carolina.

I don’t like this at all.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell Zampese wasn't from Carolina. Also, as far as I know, Carolina was a solid professional organization, so if we are transplanting a lot of the people here, we can hope to see a professional culture develop here.



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mooby
01-09-2020, 07:59 PM
Well Zampese wasn't from Carolina. Also, as far as I know, Carolina was a solid professional organization, so if we are transplanting a lot of the people here, we can hope to see a professional culture develop here.



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It's the flip side of "Dan is staying out of football decisions."

Dan gave Ron carte blanche to do what he wanted to turn this team around. We have to trust that Rivera's instincts are better than Dan's.

Ruhskins
01-09-2020, 08:03 PM
Doug



wow lol



As soon as I started typing this post, I googled Doug Williams so I could properly reference his title of senior VP of player personnel, and I could dig that quote up about how he didn't factor scheme into account when discussing how Landon Collins would fit here.



Which led me to this:



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001095592/article/doug-williams-out-of-personnel-dept-in-redskins-reorg



Doug has been moved out of his former role into a new role as "Senior VP of player development" which reports directly to Riverboat Ron. Sounds like a mentor style job, whereas his former job involved directly scouting other pro players.



I'm a fan of this move.So you really think a big free agent acquisition like Collins was all Doug and not Bruce Allen?

I feel Doug was more of a spokesman for Bruce. And I think the only player acquisition Doug had more involvement was AP.

But as you said, he seems to be moving out of personnel area, which I'm fine with as well.

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CRedskinsRule
01-09-2020, 08:05 PM
It's the flip side of "Dan is staying out of football decisions."



Dan gave Ron carte blanche to do what he wanted to turn this team around. We have to trust that Rivera's instincts are better than Dan's.Yeah, it is kinda crazy that everyone wanted football guys making the decisions and for there to be one direction in the organization. Then they get worried and discouraged when those decisions include people that the coach has a comfort level and common purpose that was shared over time.

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Chief X_Phackter
01-09-2020, 08:05 PM
It is pretty hard to question an almost total reorganization, I mean almost nothing was working except for maybe the last couple drafts. It is obvious that Rivera has a vision, and Dan is letting him roll with it. I'm willing to wait & see what happens here, without getting all up in arms about someone bringing in people that he's very familiar with, and people he knows he can work with. No one should have been considered safe with the track record this team has had...

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