Coaching and Front Office Changes

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MTK
01-07-2020, 02:33 PM
Someone please tell me of a situation where a new head coach hired a bunch of assistants that had no previous ties whatsoever to him.

People need to get over these hires being from the Panthers or other ties to Rivera. And see what happens.

As some media folks have said on Twitter, remember this is a team that went 3-13.

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Exactly, pay close attention to any HC change around the league and you’ll see every HC does the same thing. They bring in their guys. Guys they know and trust so they can hit the ground running. Haven’t we seen it enough here to know this is what happens? Yet every time people seem thrown off by it. I don’t get it.



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MTK
01-07-2020, 02:34 PM
KOC clearly wants to move on, more power to him. Let’s stop acting like it’s only a team decision.


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Skinsfanatic
01-07-2020, 02:35 PM
KOC was an OC for like 5 minutes as well, and presided over the worst offense in the league.

This is a great point.

CRedskinsRule
01-07-2020, 02:50 PM
KOC was an OC for like 5 minutes as well, and presided over the worst offense in the league. Turner is, by default, an upgrade.Well to be fair Scott Turner was OC for an even shorter time.

And wasn't even Panther's OC until Rivera was fired.
from Wikipedia
On December 3, 2019, the Panthers, fired Ron Rivera and made Perry Fewell interim head coach. A few days later, Turner's father was moved from offensive coordinator to special assistant to the head coach while Turner himself was promoted to offensive coordinator replacing his father



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MTK
01-07-2020, 02:55 PM
Joe Judge gets a job before Eric Bieniemy? Literally makes no sense.


Maybe he doesn’t want to leave KC



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MTK
01-07-2020, 03:17 PM
In the end it's silly to lament the loss of a guy like KOC, or hell even if Schaffer leaves who cares. Do we want Rivera in charge or not?

CRedskinsRule
01-07-2020, 03:18 PM
In the end it's silly to lament the loss of a guy like KOC, or hell even if Schaffer leaves who cares. Do we want Rivera in charge or not?This is the bottomline.

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SunnySide
01-07-2020, 03:23 PM
I do want to keep Kyle Smith and Alex Santos. Weve heard enough good things about them over the years.

Ruhskins
01-07-2020, 03:30 PM
I do want to keep Kyle Smith and Alex Santos. Weve heard enough good things about them over the years.

JP Findlay mentioned that he believes Doug, Kyle, and Santos are safe for now.

While Schaffer was good and I wanted him to stay, he was also very close to Allen. I think that may be have been his undoing.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-07-2020, 03:35 PM
Well to be fair Scott Turner was OC for an even shorter time.

And wasn't even Panther's OC until Rivera was fired.
from Wikipedia




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And he really improved their offense - with a 3rd string QB - in those 4 weeks.

What has KOC ever done here to care about? He's NOT Matt Lafleur and he's certainly not Sean McVay. He may be there one day, but he's nowhere close to being in their league now.

KOC's days here were numbered the second the season was over. It would have been foolish to promote him to HC and unreasonable to expect any new HC to just hand him the job based on the mediocre (at best) job he'd done here. KOC and Turner are basically on the same level as far as i'm concerned.

Snyder was quick and decisive in hiring Rivera - clearly the top HC candidate in the offseason - and Rivera has been quick and decisive in assembling his staff. Its clear that Rivera is getting his top choices and not settling for anything. We've been screaming for YEARS that we need to let the football people make the football decisions. Its finally happening. I'm not going to whine because some Kevin freaking OConnell is leaving.

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