Coaching and Front Office Changes

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JoeRedskin
01-06-2020, 12:06 PM
I would love Shurmur over KOC.

Young, rising, offensive coordinators are all the rage right now. While I dont think KOC has done anything even remotely remarkable yet, he's talked about enough that, if he has a great year or two, he'll be a serious HC candidate in 2021 or 2022. So if he sucks, we clearly don't want him. But if he's good, we're going to lose him and have to look for another OC again.

Shurmur, on the other hand, is a proven, excellent OC who has failed twice as a head coach. I doubt he gets a 3rd chance any time soon. We would have him for as long as we want him.

Give me the proven high-quality candidate who will remain with the team several years over gambling on a young rising star, who, if he works out, will just leave to help some other team.

Too much logic BHA. Too. Much. Logic.

Burgold
01-06-2020, 01:46 PM
I think that KOC will be okI don't trust that Turner thing...[his dad was a turd as coach].

CRedskinsRule
01-06-2020, 01:52 PM
Ryan Vermillion from Carolina will be the new Head Trainer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmbBIlU4AAgm_b?format=jpg

CRedskinsRule
01-06-2020, 03:04 PM
I was curious about how good or bad Carolina's training and medical staff were, so I tried googling various statistics. I'm not sure what metrics might best show it, but Football Outsiders' adjusted games lost(AGL) seemed like one that might be valuable, and then I also found a report on the most injury prone teams that showed the last 4 seasons for all teams.

from Football Outsiders' AGL 2018 (https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2019/2018-adjusted-games-lost-part-i), Carolina was ranked 26th in 2018, but 7th in 2017. The Skins were ranked 24th in 2018, but 32nd in 2017.

The other NFL injuries by team (https://www.sportfacts.org/nfl-injuries-by-team/) showed the following :
Carolina
year - IR
2015 - 9
2016 - 14
2017 - 14
2018 - 20
Total = 57 (12th least IR)

Washington
2015 - 19
2016 - 18
2017 - 20
2018 - 28
Total = 85 (31st)

Minnesota was the best with only 35 IR players over those 4 years
New Orleans (surprisingly to me) was the worst with 88 IR players over those 4 years (19, 31, 27, 11)


I don't suppose that proves much about Vermillion as a hire, but I think it's safe to say that the Skins needed a major overhaul in their staff.

CRedskinsRule
01-06-2020, 03:07 PM
Alex Marvez

Source tells @SiriusXMNFL that @Chargers asst DBs coach Chris Harris will be leaving to become new @Redskins DBs coach. Chris played in the NFL for eight years (2005-2012) before branching into coaching.

mooby
01-06-2020, 03:22 PM
Cred that's probably the best way to statistically analyze how good a head athletic trainer is in the NFL lol. I like to think the grass will be greener just because it's gotta be very hard to be so terrible with injuries 3 years in a row.

CRedskinsRule
01-06-2020, 04:00 PM
Cred that's probably the best way to statistically analyze how good a head athletic trainer is in the NFL lol. I like to think the grass will be greener just because it's gotta be very hard to be so terrible with injuries 3 years in a row.

Spotrac (https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/2019/) lets you sort by amount of cap and cash spent to IR per team per year.
Shockingly for 2019 the Skins had the most cap space in IR (49Mil for 27 players) and the most cash tied up in IR (39M). Carolina was 5th most in cap at 27Mil, 10Mil of which was Cam Newton

Our number did include all 17 weeks of Alex Smith and 8 weeks of Trent Williams contracts

Chico23231
01-06-2020, 04:18 PM
Ryan Vermillion from Carolina will be the new Head Trainer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmbBIlU4AAgm_b?format=jpg

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/05/washington-hires-former-panthers-head-trainer-ryan-vermillion/

The Washington Post reports that the change is “a key element” of Rivera’s effort to get left tackle Trent Williams to return to the team. Williams was unhappy with how the team handled the care of a growth on his head that turned out to be cancerous. Williams held out until the trade deadline in late October and was then placed on the non-football injury list.

Williams said he didn’t think his relationship with the team could be salvaged, but it appears Rivera is banking on a new administration presenting Williams with a way to return to the fold.

mooby
01-06-2020, 05:36 PM
Williams said he didn’t think his relationship with the team could be salvaged, but it appears Rivera is banking on a new administration presenting Williams with a way to return to the fold.

Incoming outrage from Redskins fans pissed Ron Rivera is going to try and bring back Trent after the unforgivable sins he committed against this team.

SkinzWin
01-06-2020, 09:29 PM
Anyone heard any movement on any other coaching positions being filled?!?

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