Coaching and Front Office Changes

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CRedskinsRule
01-03-2020, 10:31 PM
I want to assume I'm reading this wrong, because it reads like you think KOC was promoted to OC and then playcaller even though he didn't do anything to deserve being promoted.I think the point was that with a new, better, staff coming in, KOC's limited experience doesn't qualify as an automatic pass on going through the interview and evaluation process. If KOC impresses we all hope that Rivera will make his choice on those basis' not whether KOC was a golden child here before, or Scott Turner was his OC in Carolina.

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mooby
01-03-2020, 10:51 PM
I think the point was that with a new, better, staff coming in, KOC's limited experience doesn't qualify as an automatic pass on going through the interview and evaluation process. If KOC impresses we all hope that Rivera will make his choice on those basis' not whether KOC was a golden child here before, or Scott Turner was his OC in Carolina.

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Just so we're clear, I am in no way promoting the idea that KOC deserves to be Rivera's OC because he was Jay Gruden's OC.

If Rivera likes KOC and thinks he will be fine running the offense, bring him back.

If Rivera likes Bill Callahan's 1940's 80 runs a game offense better than KOC's, bring Callahan back.

The decision is Rivera's. I want complete coaching cohesion more than I want any one assistant coach. We absolutely could not afford to have KOC on staff if he went out and taught concepts that Rivera conflicted with.

CRedskinsRule
01-04-2020, 05:53 PM
It looks like some of Carolina staff moving north.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/whos-report-shows-rivera-hiring-new-coaches-booting-some-redskins-favorites

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metalskins
01-04-2020, 10:09 PM
Just so we're clear, I am in no way promoting the idea that KOC deserves to be Rivera's OC because he was Jay Gruden's OC.

If Rivera likes KOC and thinks he will be fine running the offense, bring him back.

If Rivera likes Bill Callahan's 1940's 80 runs a game offense better than KOC's, bring Callahan back.

The decision is Rivera's. I want complete coaching cohesion more than I want any one assistant coach. We absolutely could not afford to have KOC on staff if he went out and taught concepts that Rivera conflicted with.

And that's why I think Rivera moves on from KOC. I think he wants to know he's got the coaches on his staff who are all going to be one the same page. I have no problem with that. As long as it's Rivera making the decisions.

davy
01-05-2020, 12:29 PM
I would love Pat Shurmur as OC.

:thumbsup:

Schneed10
01-05-2020, 02:07 PM
Yes Pat Shurmur would be an outstanding get. I think I’d also be thrilled to retain O’Connell.

But if you want to compare resumes it’s Shurmur hands down. Very accomplished at multiple stops.

Skinsfanatic
01-05-2020, 07:34 PM
So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

skinsfaninok
01-06-2020, 09:02 AM
So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

I mean y not? But Garrett will get an OC role somewhere

BigHairedAristocrat
01-06-2020, 11:45 AM
I would love Shurmur over KOC.

Young, rising, offensive coordinators are all the rage right now. While I dont think KOC has done anything even remotely remarkable yet, he's talked about enough that, if he has a great year or two, he'll be a serious HC candidate in 2021 or 2022. So if he sucks, we clearly don't want him. But if he's good, we're going to lose him and have to look for another OC again.

Shurmur, on the other hand, is a proven, excellent OC who has failed twice as a head coach. I doubt he gets a 3rd chance any time soon. We would have him for as long as we want him.

Give me the proven high-quality candidate who will remain with the team several years over gambling on a young rising star, who, if he works out, will just leave to help some other team.

Buffalo Bob
01-06-2020, 12:05 PM
So Pat Shurmur as OC and Jason Garrett as QB Coach?

Need to find someone to give Dwayne Haskins consistent grade A fundamentals.
I noticed how Keenum usually throw tight spirals with his feet properly planted and a nice arm motion. If that could only rub off on Haskins. I don't get the inconsistency with him and his techniques.

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