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Monkeydad 07-30-2020, 11:09 AM I'm amazed at how people act like RR is a hugely successful coach, he's barely above .500 with a franchise that is nowhere near as screwed up as WFT. He's a good hire for now because he's stable but I'll be amazed if he's here in 5 years.
He has had success in the pro level, went to a Super Bowl.
Has his teams been perennial winners? No. He;s averaged 9 wins a season and went to the playoffs 4 of the last 7 years...how have the Redskins done?
I do believe Cam Newton is horribly overrated due to his "look at me 24/7 act" and media loving it. He's a HORRIBLE passer.
Despite his team's offensive troubles, his team has always had great defenses up until last season, always ranked in the top half of the league, usually Top 10, and even top-ranked in the NFL in 2015.
The strength of Coach Rivera is his team's discipline, he's a man that puts his foot down and players will follow him. That's EXACTLY what this team needs after the far-too-many years given to Gruden's incompetent free-for-all orgy atmosphere. Before that we had Jim Zorn! This team has lacked a read leader at Head Coach for a LONG, LONG time.
Even if we don't win right out of the gate, he'll bring some respectability and stability back to this team. We need that more than wins right now, as that's the first step in getting back to being successful on the field.
He's the right man at the right time.
skinsfaninok 07-30-2020, 11:14 AM I'm not as sold on RR as some are but he's the best we could have gotten IMO, his rah rah stuff is kinda corny but whatever
Monkeydad 07-30-2020, 11:17 AM I'm not as sold on RR as some are but he's the best we could have gotten IMO, his rah rah stuff is kinda corny but whatever
Zorn was the king of corny rah rah!
HIP HIP HOORAY!
Think what you will of RR but the team clearly out kicked it's coverage in getting him here. He would have had his choice of just about any opening.
skinsfaninok 07-30-2020, 11:23 AM At the end of the day, he has to win, probably won't do much this yr with this young roster but if he has a below .500 record after year 3 he'll be gone
irish 07-30-2020, 11:25 AM He has had success in the pro level, went to a Super Bowl.
Has his teams been perennial winners? No. He;s averaged 9 wins a season and went to the playoffs 4 of the last 7 years...how have the Redskins done?
I do believe Cam Newton is horribly overrated due to his "look at me 24/7 act" and media loving it. He's a HORRIBLE passer.
Despite his team's offensive troubles, his team has always had great defenses up until last season, always ranked in the top half of the league, usually Top 10, and even top-ranked in the NFL in 2015.
The strength of Coach Rivera is his team's discipline, he's a man that puts his foot down and players will follow him. That's EXACTLY what this team needs after the far-too-many years given to Gruden's incompetent free-for-all orgy atmosphere. Before that we had Jim Zorn! This team has lacked a read leader at Head Coach for a LONG, LONG time.
Even if we don't win right out of the gate, he'll bring some respectability and stability back to this team. We need that more than wins right now, as that's the first step in getting back to being successful on the field.
He's the right man at the right time.
RR is the best this team could have done so I give WFT that. His 9 win average is way better than WFT but considering the talent level he's had his results should be better.
I agree that he seems like a disciplinarian and this year the Club Jay atmosphere will likely be gone but as long as DS is the owner that discipline will only go so far. Will DS listen to RR and let him run the team his way, maybe. But until I see it happen I suspect RR will be another in a long line of WFT flame outs.
Monkeydad 07-30-2020, 11:30 AM Think what you will of RR but the team clearly out kicked it's coverage in getting him here. He would have had his choice of just about any opening.
Dallas rumors were flying around, we really got lucky.
Monkeydad 07-30-2020, 11:33 AM RR is the best this team could have done so I give WFT that. His 9 win average is way better than WFT but considering the talent level he's had his results should be better.
I agree that he seems like a disciplinarian and this year the Club Jay atmosphere will likely be gone but as long as DS is the owner that discipline will only go so far. Will DS listen to RR and let him run the team his way, maybe. But until I see it happen I suspect RR will be another in a long line of WFT flame outs.
I have the feeling we MIGHT see a tightening up in the front office after the scandal made national news...not because Dan wants to change how he runs things, but because he knows everyone will be watching now and sponsors need to be kept happy. Bad press does cost him money.
irish 07-30-2020, 12:41 PM I have the feeling we MIGHT see a tightening up in the front office after the scandal made national news...not because Dan wants to change how he runs things, but because he knows everyone will be watching now and sponsors need to be kept happy. Bad press does cost him money.
I agree that Dan will change the way he does certain things like how the organization treats women and not being so arrogant. But in the end certain players will still have direct access to him and when they don't like what RR is doing will let DS know they are unhappy. As we know, DS will "handle" it from there.
My point about RR is that he was a decent (not great) HC at Carolina with an organization that had lots of talent and was well run. Now he is at the most dysfunctional poorly run organization in the NFL. Not only is he the head coach of a team lacking talent, he's the de-facto GM, chief culture changer, name change committee member, and Dan Snyder "shield". Just coaching would be difficult enough but he's taken on all these other roles as well which I don't think does anything to help the team's chances to win. God bless him if he can pull all this off, and I hope he does, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Defensewins 07-30-2020, 12:58 PM I'm amazed at how people act like RR is a hugely successful coach, he's barely above .500 with a franchise that is nowhere near as screwed up as WFT. He's a good hire for now because he's stable but I'll be amazed if he's here in 5 years.
With that logic Bill Bellichick would not be a head coach. At his first head coaching position in the NFL from 1991 until 1995, Belichick was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. During his tenure in Cleveland, he compiled a 36–44 record.
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