Ron Rivera Thread

The difference this year is that there’s no lackey high in the management structure to do Danny’s bidding. That doesn’t mean he may insert one, or turn a newly hired person to the dark side.

HOWEVER, I believe that Rivera asked Snyder for assurances (either verbally or written) that he would stay out of the management or micromanage of the team.
Snyder’s meddling has been the Achilles Heal of this franchise for 20 years. HC like Gibbs were too nice to keep Cerrato/Snyder out of the kitchen, guys like Zorn were too intimidated to do anything. I would be EXTREMELY SURPRISED if this topic was not discussed heavily, perhaps even before Rivera showed up. Remember Rivera’s agent only let Rivera come to Asburn if certain items were agreed to. Fire BA, Rivera gets total say on staff and first years draft and FA, Rivera gets to help in selection of GM and VP after the draft. The problem’s in the Redskin’s management is well known and documented in the NFL. Why would Rivera come here under the same conditions of the prior 8 HC failures!



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The signs have been promising every time it happened except for Zorn.

2001: Oh he hired respected no-nonsense coach Marty Schottenheimer? What could go wrong!

2002: Ok, maybe he clashed with Schottenheimer. Spurrier runs that run'n'gun though, he's gonna have the Skins averaging 40 a game!

2004: O' holy father, thank you for answering my prayers. May Gibbs return this dumpster fire to the top of glory mountain.

2008: Well Gibbs ended on a sad note but at lea... wait what? Jim Fassel? ARE YOU SMOKING CRACK DAN? Fine, fine! We'll settle for Jim Zorn, even he can't be that bad compared to Fassel.

2010: Well we're not feeling Zorny anymore, but praise be! Cerrato has been removed, Bruce Allen has previous football experience and Mike Shanahan is a well respected head coach who has 2 titles under his belt!

2014: Well even Shanahan couldn't drag us out of the depths of hell, but Jay Gruden runs a good looking offense over there in Cincy!

2019: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FIRE BRUCE ALLEN ALREADY! What's this? Nobody with any self-respect will work here as long as Allen does? Yay!!!!!! Itistheonlyway.

The thing that differs for me, and maybe I don't have all the intel about the previous experiences, is that this time it's not only about the hiring of RR, it's also about the firing of BA AND the fact that RR is seemingly asking for and getting total control and Dan's hands off football decisions.

The thing that differs for me, and maybe I don't have all the intel about the previous experiences, is that this time it's not only about the hiring of RR, it's also about the firing of BA AND the fact that RR is seemingly asking for and getting total control and Dan's hands off football decisions.

Rivera already said he doesn't want total control, he just wants to play nice with the GM and pick his 46 for game days. Oh, and take any disagreements to the owner and let the owner settle it.

My only point is it's natural to get excited, we cleaned the house and it's a fresh start. It doesn't mean anything until we start putting wins on the board.

Rivera already said he doesn't want total control, he just wants to play nice with the GM and pick his 46 for game days. Oh, and take any disagreements to the owner and let the owner settle it.

My only point is it's natural to get excited, we cleaned the house and it's a fresh start. It doesn't mean anything until we start putting wins on the board.

He said that but he also said he wanted some guarantees that the FO guys would be on the same page as he did, that nobody would interfere with his football decisions and that he wants control on this year's draft. That's obviously way more control than what Jay had.

He said that but he also said he wanted some guarantees that the FO guys would be on the same page as he did, that nobody would interfere with his football decisions and that he wants control on this year's draft. That's obviously way more control than what Jay had.



Exactly. I think Rivera saw what happened to all the other great (Gibbs, Shanahan), good (Schottie) and”why did you hire this guy” (Zorn) HC’s of the Redskins and wanted to avoid their biggest hinderance - which was interference of Snyder and Cerrato/Allen. Rivera asked for and was given total control of the football aspects of the team - TO KEEP DAN SNYDER OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT of operations. That is a HUGE & POSITIVE change for this team.

What is also exciting is that the team and Rivera are moving rapidly to get the people & coaches in place NOW, and to begin to rebuild the franchise from the ground up. The Giants and Cowboys haven’t moved yet on changes or not. I think we’ll see some coaches from Carolina migrate over for Rivera and maybe a couple key players from the Panthers. The future is now!


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Actually, from what I have read, it seems like Rivera is looking for a cooperative stace with Snyder not one where DS is locked out of control. That may be the best arrangement when you have an owner like Snyder. It keeps him in the loop enough so he doesn't get lackeys, but Rivera seems to have a strong enough sense of his way, and the results to keep Dan's respect.



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Exactly. I think Rivera saw what happened to all the other great (Gibbs, Shanahan), good (Schottie) and”why did you hire this guy” (Zorn) HC’s of the Redskins and wanted to avoid their biggest hinderance - which was interference of Snyder and Cerrato/Allen. Rivera asked for and was given total control of the football aspects of the team - TO KEEP DAN SNYDER OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT of operations. That is a HUGE & POSITIVE change for this team.

What is also exciting is that the team and Rivera are moving rapidly to get the people & coaches in place NOW, and to begin to rebuild the franchise from the ground up. The Giants and Cowboys haven’t moved yet on changes or not. I think we’ll see some coaches from Carolina migrate over for Rivera and maybe a couple key players from the Panthers. The future is now!


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Shanny asked for that too even pen to paper didn't quite work out that way.

Shanny asked for that too even pen to paper didn't quite work out that way.

Let’s hope the time since then for Dan to reflect on how terrible his meddling issues have impacted the organization have helped him make changes moving forward

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Heard a Carolina inside reporter interview this morning on Doc and Galdi.

Analytics seems to be not high on Rivera's list. One of the reasons new team owner Tepper wanted a new coach, wanted a more analytic offensive HC.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001083762/article/panthers-owner-explains-decision-to-fire-ron-rivera

OConnell uses modern concepts and analytics. Hopefully that doesnt cause a rift.