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Warthog 02-28-2020, 09:41 PM Haskin’s 6th game was with a QB rating of 120 (max 154). His seventh game had a QB rating of 141 before he was hurt. Maybe he got lucky. But it sure looked to me that he was getting more confident and was improving rapidly with every game. 120 and 141 QB rating is elite. Not “ok”, not “good”, it’s elite. That’s as a rookie, with crappy TE, rookie WR, below average OL and Callahan as an interim HC.
Rosen looked like a bust his rookie season. He didn’t have any 120 rating games. I think people looked at Haskin’s first game where he had 3 INT and figured he was a draft bust. But he got to finally practice with the first team, they stabilized the OL, and he improved every game he played.
I don’t know if Haskins will be the franchise QB for the Redskins. But he had a damn good rookie season and constantly improved. I bet he’ll get better this season with some real TE, at good OL, a far better OC. Drafting Tua is just crazy talk by people who turned the tv off after his first game.
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NYCskinfan82 02-29-2020, 06:40 AM Haskin’s 6th game was with a QB rating of 120 (max 154). His seventh game had a QB rating of 141 before he was hurt. Maybe he got lucky. But it sure looked to me that he was getting more confident and was improving rapidly with every game. 120 and 141 QB rating is elite. Not “ok”, not “good”, it’s elite. That’s as a rookie, with crappy TE, rookie WR, below average OL and Callahan as an interim HC.
Rosen looked like a bust his rookie season. He didn’t have any 120 rating games. I think people looked at Haskin’s first game where he had 3 INT and figured he was a draft bust. But he got to finally practice with the first team, they stabilized the OL, and he improved every game he played.
I don’t know if Haskins will be the franchise QB for the Redskins. But he had a damn good rookie season and constantly improved. I bet he’ll get better this season with some real TE, at good OL, a far better OC. Drafting Tua is just crazy talk by people who turned the tv off after his first game.
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Well said Agree 100%.
SkinzWin 02-29-2020, 10:20 AM We’re not taking Tua or Burrows in any crazy trade. When you draft a QB in the first round, you build around him and give him 20-35 games to succeed or fail. They will ride Haskins for better or worse until given a far chance to become a franchise QB.
We’re drafting Chase Young unless offered something crazy.
In Dwayne Haskins last two games he had a QB rating of 120 and 141. His fifth and sixth NFL games. Exactly what do you want with this guy, beyond that?
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Look what the Cardinals did with Rosen after 16 games. Best decision they ever made.
Warthog 02-29-2020, 01:46 PM Look what the Cardinals did with Rosen after 16 games. Best decision they ever made.
Right! Because Rosen was a draft bust and did NOT improve during his rookie season.
If you only looked at Haskins first game ( which was awful) OR just looked at Haskins overall rookie numbers (which included his terrible first game) you might think he could be a draft bust. But at a closer examination of his games showed he improved constantly every game. His last two games had ELITE numbers.
So-called “experts” like Kiper only looked at Haskjn’s overall numbers, not his continual improvement. Rosen never improved, nor had any games that could be called elite. Rosen didn’t even have any really good games. The Cardinals were right to get rid of Rosen, but Rosen is not Haskins.
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SkinzWin 02-29-2020, 07:37 PM I’m not saying we should give Haskins away. But I also think the $h!t show that was the 2019 season is not enough data to say he will be good or be a bust. Especially not if you are basing it off two games at the end of the season when no one has much to play for unless you are a playoff contender.
Right! Because Rosen was a draft bust and did NOT improve during his rookie season.
If you only looked at Haskins first game ( which was awful) OR just looked at Haskins overall rookie numbers (which included his terrible first game) you might think he could be a draft bust. But at a closer examination of his games showed he improved constantly every game. His last two games had ELITE numbers.
So-called “experts” like Kiper only looked at Haskjn’s overall numbers, not his continual improvement. Rosen never improved, nor had any games that could be called elite. Rosen didn’t even have any really good games. The Cardinals were right to get rid of Rosen, but Rosen is not Haskins.
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Warthog 03-01-2020, 11:16 AM I’m not saying we should give Haskins away. But I also think the $h!t show that was the 2019 season is not enough data to say he will be good or be a bust. Especially not if you are basing it off two games at the end of the season when no one has much to play for unless you are a playoff contender.
You’re exactly right. There were so many things WRONG with our offense it’s impossible to know what type of QB Haskin’s will be. His first game was terrible and his last two games were outstanding. If he DIDN’T have those last two excellent games, I think the idea of drafting Tua might be justified.
However, Haskins was hurt and he played through it. He started to become a leader of the team. He really looked very good in those last games, with many things (porous OL, no TE, rookie WR, weak playcalling) going against him and the offense.
What those last two games meant was that he DESERVES a second season to prove himself. He may ultimately be a draft bust or just an average QB. But the end of last season means the team has to give him a chance to prove himself one way or another.
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KI Skins Fan 03-01-2020, 12:02 PM You’re exactly right. There were so many things WRONG with our offense it’s impossible to know what type of QB Haskin’s will be. His first game was terrible and his last two games were outstanding. If he DIDN’T have those last two excellent games, I think the idea of drafting Tua might be justified.
However, Haskins was hurt and he played through it. He started to become a leader of the team. He really looked very good in those last games, with many things (porous OL, no TE, rookie WR, weak playcalling) going against him and the offense.
What those last two games meant was that he DESERVES a second season to prove himself. He may ultimately be a draft bust or just an average QB. But the end of last season means the team has to give him a chance to prove himself one way or another.
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It's a business and he's a contractor; therefore, he doesn't deserve jack. Sorry, that's just the way it is in the NFL.
Nevertheless, I have no problem with the Skins developing him. I think the ankle sprain held him back and I'm optimistic about what he can do when fully healthy.
Warthog 03-02-2020, 10:04 PM It's a business and he's a contractor; therefore, he doesn't deserve jack. Sorry, that's just the way it is in the NFL.
Nevertheless, I have no problem with the Skins developing him. I think the ankle sprain held him back and I'm optimistic about what he can do when fully healthy.
NFL - not for long. I’m excited to see if Haskins can improve this season toward the franchise QB we all have been waiting for. But if he flops, we’ll be using our first rounder for a QB in 2021. I think the offense will improve out of the cellar but the defense will carry the team this season. I just don’t think they can fix all the holes on the offense.
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BigHairedAristocrat 03-04-2020, 11:59 PM I have been a vocal critic of Haskins for quite some time. My criticisms have had nothing to do with his football intelligence or ability, but completely having to do with his work ethic and commitment to doing what it takes to be an NFL quarterback.
So this is exactly what i want to see:
Throughout the offseason, the Redskins coach has emphasized how he wants Dwayne Haskins to take his commitment to another level. That's happening so far, too, as Rivera told reporters last week at the Combine that the QB has been a constant presence at the organization's facility in Ashburn.
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-fans-will-love-seeing-these-videos-dwayne-haskins-and-derrius-guice-working-out
Keep it up, Dwayne, and you’ll have earned this.
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sdskinsfan2001 03-05-2020, 12:15 AM Pissed off for greatness!
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